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Wheels don't fit!, Eight spokes don't fit! |
brooks944 |
Oct 5 2014, 12:57 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 241 Joined: 5-September 10 From: Kingston, TN Member No.: 12,139 Region Association: South East States |
I bought some nice Rocket Racing 8 spoke wheels for the 75 914, and spent a bunch of hours stripping, repainting the inners and polishing the rims. Put the existing BFG 195 x 60 tires on and the fronts fit like a glove. Rears, no way. I don't think rolling the fender will work, what does everything recommend, get a new set of rear tires that are skinnier? Really don't want to go back to the ugly steel wheels that came with the car.
Thanks, Rick |
Bob L. |
Oct 5 2014, 01:06 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 847 Joined: 7-August 11 From: Austin TX Member No.: 13,411 Region Association: Southwest Region |
If they're like mine, the offset is different than the steelies. It pushes the tire out and limits what size tires will fit.
There are other wheels besides the steelies that should fit with that tire. Fuchs, Mahle's, Riviera's, Pedrini's to name a few. |
mepstein |
Oct 5 2014, 01:18 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,279 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Sounds like bug spacing, not 914.
Sell the wheels, buy some with the correct offset. |
Mike Bellis |
Oct 5 2014, 01:54 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,345 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
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brooks944 |
Oct 5 2014, 01:57 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 241 Joined: 5-September 10 From: Kingston, TN Member No.: 12,139 Region Association: South East States |
Yes these are probably bug spacing. What is your recommendation for finding wheels?
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914itis |
Oct 5 2014, 02:16 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,892 Joined: 9-October 10 From: New York City Member No.: 12,256 Region Association: North East States |
I have some rivieras for cheap if you need them
Pm me |
sfrenck |
Oct 5 2014, 02:46 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 492 Joined: 28-February 10 From: Wilmington, DE Member No.: 11,411 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Bug spacing works with negative camber on the rear wheels - take out a couple shims.
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brooks944 |
Oct 5 2014, 02:48 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 241 Joined: 5-September 10 From: Kingston, TN Member No.: 12,139 Region Association: South East States |
Thanks Scott, that's exactly the advice I was looking for. Any reference for removing the shims?
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sfrenck |
Oct 5 2014, 03:34 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 492 Joined: 28-February 10 From: Wilmington, DE Member No.: 11,411 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Try this:
914 rear camber adjustment Different brands of tires are also different widths - think BFGoodrich are some of the wider ones, unfortunately. I can barely get my fingers between the tire and fender on my driver side, but it hasn't rubbed after a couple months of driving. Scott's 74 with ARE's |
vw505 |
Oct 6 2014, 08:09 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 228 Joined: 17-April 03 From: San Antonio, TX , Navy retired Member No.: 579 Region Association: None |
185-65-15 is as wide as I could go on mine.
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messix |
Oct 6 2014, 08:12 PM
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AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I've got 205 65 on old knock off 8 spokes, and rolled the lip and tugged the fender out some to get 1/4" clearance. oh and a bunch of neg camber
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brooks944 |
Oct 7 2014, 04:15 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 241 Joined: 5-September 10 From: Kingston, TN Member No.: 12,139 Region Association: South East States |
Thanks guys. I've also read that the springs may be shot. What do you think? I thought the car looked lowered in the rear when I got it.
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mepstein |
Oct 7 2014, 05:10 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,279 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Thanks guys. I've also read that the springs may be shot. What do you think? I thought the car looked lowered in the rear when I got it. there's a goos chance the springs need replacement but that will not help the clearance issue. 2.0 fuchs fit 195x65x15 perfectly and usually work fine for 205x60x15. Mahle's also work well and usually sell a bit cheaper. |
damesandhotrods |
Oct 7 2014, 05:14 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 568 Joined: 26-September 10 From: Santa Cruz California Member No.: 12,218 Region Association: Northern California |
A lowered car is only going to be worse. The problem is you have the wrong wheels for your 914; most of the 4 lug wheels produced are intended for Beetles. I’d suggest the 914 World or The Samba classifieds. You’re pretty much stuck in the same boat as Karmann Ghia and Type 3 owners.
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brooks944 |
Oct 8 2014, 04:30 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 241 Joined: 5-September 10 From: Kingston, TN Member No.: 12,139 Region Association: South East States |
Appreciate all the input. If I get new tires that are 185 instead of 195, think that will work?
Rick |
ClayPerrine |
Oct 8 2014, 06:38 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,474 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
Don't take the shims out. That is what sets the proper alignment on the rear wheels. Removing the shims will cause your tires to wear out quickly, and can cause the car to handle really badly.
I suggest getting wheels that have the proper offset for a 914. |
rhodyguy |
Oct 8 2014, 06:41 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,081 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Do you need new tires? If not, spring for wheels that will work. You may find even 185s won't fit with your current wheels. Altering the alignment, and adding excessive neg camber, doesn't seem like the wise move.
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TargaToy |
Oct 8 2014, 08:57 PM
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-NONSOLIS RADIOS SEDIOUIS FULMINA MITTO- Group: Members Posts: 692 Joined: 26-March 10 From: DelMarVa Peninsula Member No.: 11,509 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Rivieras also come in beetle and 914 offsets so be very cautious if you consider trying them. The PO put the bug ones on my car and had to run 165's. And that looks horrible.
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bigkensteele |
Oct 8 2014, 09:11 PM
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Major Member Group: Members Posts: 2,197 Joined: 30-August 04 From: Cincinnati, OH Member No.: 2,660 Region Association: South East States |
It may be worthwhile to inspect the hub-mating surface of the wheel to see if there is sufficient material to be machined away. I doubt that the manufacturers did two different castings for the 914 and the Beetle/Ghia/etc. It may be as simple as taking your rims to a machine shop and getting 3/8" milled off the mating surface.
I would measure the distance between the mating surface and the bottom edge of the concave lug area. If that is over 1/2", I would say that you probably have room to do some resurfacing. |
Johns914 |
Oct 10 2014, 01:36 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 55 Joined: 16-November 05 From: Chandler, AZ Member No.: 5,135 Region Association: None |
I ran into the same issue with mine and running BRM flat 4 replicas. When I first started the drivers rear tire was outside the fender. After some massaging of the fender and a smaller tire and it fits just. A hard right hand turn and I get a slight buzz. I ended up with 185 bridgstone eagers.
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