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> Temperature, A guess to how hot this might be
rstover
post Oct 5 2014, 03:35 PM
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I recently checked the timing and dwell angle. I took it for a test drive and the engine ran well , but I am concerned that this is to warm. The outside temperature was 90Attached Image
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post Oct 5 2014, 04:27 PM
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This may help.

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post Oct 5 2014, 04:32 PM
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post Oct 5 2014, 04:40 PM
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If it was not running warm before and you made any adjustments, I think you should recheck everything again. I have used the wrong mark and gotten the timing too advanced causing it to run way hot.
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post Oct 6 2014, 06:48 AM
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Thanks for the help. I purchased the engine about three years ago to put in the Bumblebee because I thought it was cheaper than a rebuild. I believe it was a 1973 engine that was rebuilt. It is probably likely that I have a 1973 sender going to a 1974 gauge. Because it is a 2056 and has modified parts I had concluded rightly or wrongly that I was going to need a auxiliary oil cooler. I did not want to put a cooler on the Bumblebee so have bit the bullet and am getting the original engine rebuilt. I wish I had the dip stick thermometer, to check but will hopefully have the original engine in before one could be obtained. Attached File  his_engine_was_professionally_rebuilt_and_installed_2.0_engine.doc ( 21k ) Number of downloads: 41
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post Oct 6 2014, 08:35 AM
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That is where my '76 runs. Never a problem. Those VDO gages are about as accurate as a BB gun. Double check the temp at the sump w/ an IR thermometer.
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post Oct 6 2014, 11:04 AM
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Wouldn't that be about 210?
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post Oct 6 2014, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(RonnieJ @ Oct 6 2014, 09:04 AM) *

Wouldn't that be about 210?



Depends on if it is a 120/150 or a 200 C sender.
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post Oct 6 2014, 12:13 PM
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You can also calibrate your combination pretty easily if you want to. Remove the sender, wire it up outside the car, and use boiling water (210 degrees F) to find where that indicates on your gauge.

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post Oct 6 2014, 05:46 PM
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Again I want to thank everyone who helps. I found a infrared thermometer at Gibsons. The brand is General and it is called the heat seeker. I took the car for a 10 min drive and got the temperature on the guage close to where it was in the picture, but not quite as high. I took several readings on the bottom of the engine and the temps ranged from 196.5 to 198.5.
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post Oct 7 2014, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE(stownsen914 @ Oct 6 2014, 11:13 AM) *

You can also calibrate your combination pretty easily if you want to. Remove the sender, wire it up outside the car, and use boiling water (210 degrees F) to find where that indicates on your gauge.

Scott

That works well for checking the accuracy at 212F but I've found motor oil works better. It will hold temp better and can be heated to higher temps to check accuracy at the upper limits.

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Again I want to thank everyone who helps. I found a infrared thermometer at Gibsons. The brand is General and it is called the heat seeker. I took the car for a 10 min drive and got the temperature on the guage close to where it was in the picture, but not quite as high. I took several readings on the bottom of the engine and the temps ranged from 196.5 to 198.5.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) Now go run it for 30 min's and check it. It takes longer than 10 min's to "heat soak" the engine.
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post Oct 7 2014, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE(76-914 @ Oct 7 2014, 10:10 AM) *

QUOTE(stownsen914 @ Oct 6 2014, 11:13 AM) *

You can also calibrate your combination pretty easily if you want to. Remove the sender, wire it up outside the car, and use boiling water (210 degrees F) to find where that indicates on your gauge.

Scott

That works well for checking the accuracy at 212F but I've found motor oil works better. It will hold temp better and can be heated to higher temps to check accuracy at the upper limits.

QUOTE(rstover @ Oct 6 2014, 04:46 PM) *

Again I want to thank everyone who helps. I found a infrared thermometer at Gibsons. The brand is General and it is called the heat seeker. I took the car for a 10 min drive and got the temperature on the guage close to where it was in the picture, but not quite as high. I took several readings on the bottom of the engine and the temps ranged from 196.5 to 198.5.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) Now go run it for 30 min's and check it. It takes longer than 10 min's to "heat soak" the engine.


OK hopefully will get time tomorrow
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post Oct 7 2014, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE(76-914 @ Oct 7 2014, 11:10 AM) *

QUOTE(stownsen914 @ Oct 6 2014, 11:13 AM) *

You can also calibrate your combination pretty easily if you want to. Remove the sender, wire it up outside the car, and use boiling water (210 degrees F) to find where that indicates on your gauge.

Scott

That works well for checking the accuracy at 212F but I've found motor oil works better. It will hold temp better and can be heated to higher temps to check accuracy at the upper limits.



I was thinking of the case where you don't have another temp probe to measure your oil or water or whatever medium you choose (I didn't when I did mine). If you do have, then all the better.
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post Oct 9 2014, 05:10 PM
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I drove the car for about 40 minutes. The needle on the guage got almost to the red but stopped about a 1/8 in short of it. I felt that the car was as warm as it was going to get. I then shot several readings on the sump and they ranged from 214 to 220. Would this be reasonable.
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