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weld in sway bar triangle plates? |
siverson |
Oct 5 2014, 03:57 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,448 Joined: 5-May 03 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 654 Region Association: Southern California |
whats the latest thinking on these. should they be bolted and welded in?
-steve Attached thumbnail(s) |
Mblizzard |
Oct 5 2014, 04:23 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,033 Joined: 28-January 13 From: Knoxville Tn Member No.: 15,438 Region Association: South East States |
For me it depends on how you will drive the car. If you are just a person that occasionally drives the car hard then bolt in is fine. If you are going to auto cross every weekend then you would want to weld and add some of Madddogs Motor Sports reinforcement mounts. Very nice stuff that works very well.
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McMark |
Oct 5 2014, 04:32 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
They only need to be tack welded so you can remove the bolts without the plate falling.
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toolguy |
Oct 5 2014, 04:49 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,267 Joined: 2-April 11 From: San Diego / El Cajon Member No.: 12,889 Region Association: Southern California |
Weld them in. . and I'd do a little more than just tack weld them. . .
I've ripped out the factory welded plates on 2 914's and 1 911 from aggressive turns in slaloms and time trials. . . Think about this. . if you're lifting a wheel in a turn, all that front force is on the sway bar mounts. . that's a whole lot of force. . more than a few hundred pounds. . and that sheet metal is relatively very thin. |
messix |
Oct 5 2014, 05:05 PM
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AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
i believe that the factory welded them on. and they installed them on the outside in the wheel well.
i don't see any reason to do it differently than what some German engineers did... |
EdwardBlume |
Oct 5 2014, 05:10 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California |
They only need to be tack welded so you can remove the bolts without the plate falling. McMark posted a thread on installing a sway bar mount at one time... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
76-914 |
Oct 5 2014, 05:52 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,501 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
Weld 'em. You can't access the entire flange on the inside without major cutting so a large tack weld is all I could achieve.
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ChrisFoley |
Oct 5 2014, 07:26 PM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,925 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None |
Depends on sway bar size and the kind of driving done with the car.
Any track car with a larger than stock bar should have them fully perimeter welded. A street car with a stock anti-sway bar is fine with them tack welded in place. IMO those triangular plates have a poor shape for the location, and the plating will interfere with making quality welds. |
siverson |
Oct 7 2014, 11:51 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,448 Joined: 5-May 03 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 654 Region Association: Southern California |
thanks for the tips. i think ill just weld the edge as much as possible without cutting any more. this is for my stock 914-6 with 2.0 motor, street driven, 185 tires, tarrett 22mm sway bar.
-steve |
arkitect |
Oct 19 2014, 06:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 617 Joined: 3-March 10 From: Stockton, CA Member No.: 11,426 Region Association: None |
They only need to be tack welded so you can remove the bolts without the plate falling. McMark posted a thread on installing a sway bar mount at one time... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Can anyone point me to the thread mentioned here that McMark did? Looking for picts of front sway bar install. thanks. Dave |
infraredcalvin |
Oct 19 2014, 11:37 PM
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Distracted Member Group: Members Posts: 1,515 Joined: 25-August 08 From: Ladera Ranch, CA Member No.: 9,463 Region Association: Southern California |
Not McMark's thread, but might be helpful...
http://www.maddogsmotorsports.org/uploads/...nstructions.pdf |
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