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mbseto
post Oct 15 2014, 09:05 AM
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Howdy all;
About to start a restoration, hoping to do a rolling resto. After looking over some of the threads on prep for repairing longs, I see two things everyone advises:
1) brace the doors
2) get the car off the wheels, i.e. jackstands under the donuts

It looks like the engine is nearly always pulled... Is this a must, or can the longs be repaired with the engine in? If so, is additional support under the engine/trans needed?

Thanks for the input,
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post Oct 21 2014, 09:02 AM
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I can weld and I trust in my ability to do so. Was asking about rules of thumb, not for this specific car, but just to get an idea of where others draw the line. Are there things you look for where you say I'm just not going to try to fix that?

I've read through the "digging into hell" thread multiple times and the first time I thought man that guy's got guts. Glad I won't have to do that. Then the more I uncover with mine the more I see that looks like that car. Seems intimidating on the one hand, but on the other it provides me with an excellent blow-by-blow with photos of how to fix it. It is a tempting challenge. Just like the precipitous drop at the edge of a high cliff wants to draw you forward.

I notice he used the 4x4 method, but never came back to say how the car turned out in the end. I read through several of scotty b's bracing posts and it makes a lot of sense to me. Which then leads to thoughts of a rotisserie resto.

The decision is mostly made at this point. Just trying to build up some courage. Iceberg pictures aren't helping. :-)
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QUOTE(mbseto @ Oct 21 2014, 11:02 AM) *

I can weld and I trust in my ability to do so. Was asking about rules of thumb, not for this specific car, but just to get an idea of where others draw the line. Are there things you look for where you say I'm just not going to try to fix that?

I've read through the "digging into hell" thread multiple times and the first time I thought man that guy's got guts. Glad I won't have to do that. Then the more I uncover with mine the more I see that looks like that car. Seems intimidating on the one hand, but on the other it provides me with an excellent blow-by-blow with photos of how to fix it. It is a tempting challenge. Just like the precipitous drop at the edge of a high cliff wants to draw you forward.

I notice he used the 4x4 method, but never came back to say how the car turned out in the end. I read through several of scotty b's bracing posts and it makes a lot of sense to me. Which then leads to thoughts of a rotisserie resto.

The decision is mostly made at this point. Just trying to build up some courage. Iceberg pictures aren't helping. :-)

I'm in the same boat you are right now. I've read through michelko's thread several times (and others, like PaintedMan), and I've got my car braced and up with a 4x4 under it like Scotty recommends. I agree it's like standing at the edge of a cliff, and when you fire up that angle grinder and the sparks start a'flyin' you've pretty much taken the leap.

My hell hole sucks, so I know that's got to be repaired. The PO did a repair on the long, but I don't know how well. That's kind of what has me hesitating. Do I just start cutting and let the chips fall where they may?

Good luck!
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mbseto   Welding longs with engine in?   Oct 15 2014, 09:05 AM
rjames   Howdy all; About to start a restoration, hoping t...   Oct 15 2014, 09:46 AM
CptTripps   I always thought it was good to do it with the eng...   Oct 15 2014, 11:07 AM
Johny Blackstain   I would think it all depends on the amount of rust...   Oct 15 2014, 11:45 AM
mepstein   I'm no expert but have never seen a car that n...   Oct 15 2014, 11:52 AM
scotty b   98% of the time if the long is bad the hell hole i...   Oct 15 2014, 12:13 PM
BeatNavy   The whole length of the car really needs to be su...   Oct 15 2014, 01:33 PM
scotty b   The whole length of the car really needs to be s...   Oct 15 2014, 04:07 PM
mbseto   I'm no expert but have never seen a car that ...   Oct 15 2014, 12:16 PM
CptTripps   Looks like you may benefit from doing your floor p...   Oct 15 2014, 12:52 PM
stugray   If you havent had the engine out, then you didnt l...   Oct 15 2014, 12:55 PM
rjames   My car had minimal rust in the longs that needed t...   Oct 15 2014, 12:58 PM
r_towle   If you have not taken the motor out, it's time...   Oct 15 2014, 04:22 PM
Porschef   Rich is 100% correct, the idea of dropping the eng...   Oct 15 2014, 05:35 PM
injunmort   I set mine on3x3 sq.tubing from firewall to firewa...   Oct 15 2014, 06:11 PM
rick 918-S   Believe me, pulling the engine is going to be the ...   Oct 15 2014, 07:52 PM
Tbrown4x4   Believe me, pulling the engine is going to be the...   Oct 16 2014, 06:47 AM
stugray   A perfect example is that picture posted by rjames...   Oct 16 2014, 07:58 AM
mbseto   I appreciate the advice from the more experienced....   Oct 18 2014, 01:47 PM
scotty b   :(   Oct 19 2014, 10:28 AM
worn   :( I cannot keep track of Scotty's avatar a...   Oct 20 2014, 03:04 PM
r_towle   :( Just mean   Oct 20 2014, 05:33 PM
mbseto   Do you have any rules of thumb for deciding whethe...   Oct 20 2014, 09:16 AM
mepstein   Do you have any rules of thumb for deciding wheth...   Oct 20 2014, 10:30 AM
sfrenck   Do you have any rules of thumb for deciding wheth...   Oct 20 2014, 10:31 AM
worn   Do you have any rules of thumb for deciding wheth...   Oct 20 2014, 05:50 PM
mbseto   I can weld and I trust in my ability to do so. Wa...   Oct 21 2014, 09:02 AM
BeatNavy   I can weld and I trust in my ability to do so. W...   Oct 21 2014, 09:30 AM
rjames   Buy another 914 that's drivable while you rest...   Oct 21 2014, 01:13 PM


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