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| veltror |
 Nov 16 2014, 02:42 PM
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Senior Member  Group: Members Posts: 928 Joined: 27-April 08 From: Potters Bar Herts UK Member No.: 8,978 Region Association: None  |
I have these on my Beetle cabrio
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| Starlack |
Nov 16 2014, 02:43 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 67 Joined: 8-January 12 From: Germany Member No.: 13,978 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(zach914v8 @ Nov 16 2014, 11:40 AM)  QUOTE(Starlack @ Nov 16 2014, 01:13 PM) Hello and good evening. Currently, I am going to rebuild my brake system vented to the inside Matching brake discs is available here in Germany at company Kerscher ... you looking here http://www.kerscher-tuning.de/kaefer/detail.php?id=92 This looks interesting also..... I just wish I could read the website. Im surprised I have not seen these before. Hello I can speak a little English but good German. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Then I try the times translate to English. These brake discs are designed for the VW old Beetle. Both have the same wheel bearing. So the discs are also attached to the 914th The price is 189 euros + shipping. |
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| Starlack |
Nov 16 2014, 02:49 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 67 Joined: 8-January 12 From: Germany Member No.: 13,978 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(zach914v8 @ Nov 16 2014, 12:03 PM) QUOTE(SirAndy @ Nov 16 2014, 01:47 PM) QUOTE(zach914v8 @ Nov 16 2014, 11:40 AM) This looks interesting also..... I just wish I could read the website. Im surprised I have not seen these before. Just click on the English flag on the left side of the navigation. It'll switch the site language to English. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Dah.... I got, lol. But now I know why I have never seen them. They cost big money. Nearly $1200 for the fronts only. Not to mention I'm sure the shipping would be insane. Is that would be expensive. but I only have the brake discs. The calipers are from the 911 F Model .. |
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| zach914v8 |
Nov 16 2014, 03:09 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 216 Joined: 26-November 10 From: Houston Member No.: 12,426 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(Starlack @ Nov 16 2014, 02:49 PM) QUOTE(zach914v8 @ Nov 16 2014, 12:03 PM) QUOTE(SirAndy @ Nov 16 2014, 01:47 PM) QUOTE(zach914v8 @ Nov 16 2014, 11:40 AM) This looks interesting also..... I just wish I could read the website. Im surprised I have not seen these before. Just click on the English flag on the left side of the navigation. It'll switch the site language to English. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Dah.... I got, lol. But now I know why I have never seen them. They cost big money. Nearly $1200 for the fronts only. Not to mention I'm sure the shipping would be insane. Is that would be expensive. but I only have the brake discs. The calipers are from the 911 F Model .. Since these things are made for old vw bugs, I would think that there has to be a source for these in the us.... Maybe? |
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| Starlack |
Nov 16 2014, 03:27 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 67 Joined: 8-January 12 From: Germany Member No.: 13,978 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(zach914v8 @ Nov 16 2014, 01:09 PM) QUOTE(Starlack @ Nov 16 2014, 02:49 PM) QUOTE(zach914v8 @ Nov 16 2014, 12:03 PM) QUOTE(SirAndy @ Nov 16 2014, 01:47 PM) QUOTE(zach914v8 @ Nov 16 2014, 11:40 AM) This looks interesting also..... I just wish I could read the website. Im surprised I have not seen these before. Just click on the English flag on the left side of the navigation. It'll switch the site language to English. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Dah.... I got, lol. But now I know why I have never seen them. They cost big money. Nearly $1200 for the fronts only. Not to mention I'm sure the shipping would be insane. Is that would be expensive. but I only have the brake discs. The calipers are from the 911 F Model .. Since these things are made for old vw bugs, I would think that there has to be a source for these in the us.... Maybe? I do not think the sale in US parts the company Kerscher. But there are sell these discs other providers. In Germany, for example, http://www.csp-shop.com/cgi-bin/cshop2/fro...sort=0&all= The company Kerscher in Germany is well known in the 914 scene and .. Ofcourse I beetles |
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| shoguneagle |
Nov 16 2014, 06:50 PM
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shoguneagle Group: Members Posts: 1,180 Joined: 3-January 03 From: CA, OR, AZ (CAZOR); New Mexico Member No.: 84 Region Association: Northern California |
THREAD HIGHJACK!!! Sorry, but I saw that Mr. Mueller made a couple of threads here.
Mr. Mueller does know what he is talking about and NEEDS to be involved back in the 914/911 world whenever he can provide time away from the wife and twins. His knowledge and ability to build items is first class. We have missed a great asset. I am glad he has commented and he still has his interest. Glad he is well along with the family. Mr. Mueller provided me with information and assistance without question during the early years, and I have never forgotten it. Hello, Mike. Best of everything to you and the family. NOW, back to "normal broadcast"! Sorry, but I just had to say hello and make comments. Steve Hurt |
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| r_towle |
Nov 16 2014, 07:14 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,571 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States 
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QUOTE(Starlack @ Nov 16 2014, 03:43 PM) QUOTE(zach914v8 @ Nov 16 2014, 11:40 AM) QUOTE(Starlack @ Nov 16 2014, 01:13 PM) Hello and good evening. Currently, I am going to rebuild my brake system vented to the inside Matching brake discs is available here in Germany at company Kerscher ... you looking here http://www.kerscher-tuning.de/kaefer/detail.php?id=92 This looks interesting also..... I just wish I could read the website. Im surprised I have not seen these before. Hello I can speak a little English but good German. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Then I try the times translate to English. These brake discs are designed for the VW old Beetle. Both have the same wheel bearing. So the discs are also attached to the 914th The price is 189 euros + shipping. That is a fantastic price. What is the offset? Is it the same as a beetle? Will this make your wheels rub the fender? |
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| Mark Henry |
Nov 16 2014, 07:26 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
I have a friend up here in Canuckistan named Lanner that can makes adapters for almost anything. If he had the drawing I bet he could pop these out pretty damn fast.
He does it mostly for the beetle crowd, a lot of Porsche 5-bolt conversions so he already has the tooling for the hubs http://vdubengineering.com/brake-parts-kits/ (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/vdubengineering.com-26-1416187860.1.jpg) |
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| stugray |
Nov 16 2014, 08:20 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,824 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Nov 16 2014, 06:26 PM) I have a friend up here in Canuckistan named Lanner that can makes adapters for almost anything. If he had the drawing I bet he could pop these out pretty damn fast. He does it mostly for the beetle crowd, a lot of Porsche 5-bolt conversions so he already has the tooling for the hubs http://vdubengineering.com/brake-parts-kits/ (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/vdubengineering.com-26-1416187860.1.jpg) So would those bolt to a wilwood style rotor and then fit on our spindles? exact dimensions are probably different, but is that the concept? |
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| Mark Henry |
Nov 16 2014, 08:29 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(stugray @ Nov 16 2014, 09:20 PM) QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Nov 16 2014, 06:26 PM) I have a friend up here in Canuckistan named Lanner that can makes adapters for almost anything. If he had the drawing I bet he could pop these out pretty damn fast. He does it mostly for the beetle crowd, a lot of Porsche 5-bolt conversions so he already has the tooling for the hubs http://vdubengineering.com/brake-parts-kits/ (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/vdubengineering.com-26-1416187860.1.jpg) So would those bolt to a wilwood style rotor and then fit on our spindles? exact dimensions are probably different, but is that the concept? That kit is for a 944 NA caliper and hub on VW beetle. I'm guessing 944 rotor as well. |
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| oldschool |
Nov 16 2014, 08:54 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,362 Joined: 29-October 08 From: P-town Member No.: 9,705 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Nov 16 2014, 05:44 AM) The machining was expensive and there just wasn't a big enough profit margin/demand to keep them going...plus Brad became a tad of a fuch-up. He is gone from the 914 scene...done. Used if you can find it or step up to the plate and become the vendor. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I bet Mike Mueller still has the files and would likely give them away. Yup pretty done (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I just saw a 914 in his shop this week, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) |
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| white1975 |
Nov 17 2014, 12:55 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 94 Joined: 28-December 10 From: Milford ohio Member No.: 12,529 Region Association: None |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) I have a friend that has a machine shop that is more for play and spare after hours work that should cut down on cost plus I need a set too 5 lug setup
which means he will have me out there helping just need a copy of them to go at it |
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| ChrisFoley |
Nov 17 2014, 09:26 AM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,920 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(Mueller @ Nov 16 2014, 02:19 PM) I thought I heard something about Mark Hayes making them? markasap on here.... IIRC that's who BR was working with. The last set Mark had on the shelf was sold directly to me for one of my customers. |
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| stugray |
Nov 17 2014, 10:31 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,824 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(white1975 @ Nov 16 2014, 11:55 PM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) I have a friend that has a machine shop that is more for play and spare after hours work that should cut down on cost plus I need a set too 5 lug setup which means he will have me out there helping just need a copy of them to go at it If the design was done smart, you could make these hubs, and then drill them for 4 or 5 lug wheels. The "core" would be indentical, then the holes drilled for whichever wheel you wanted. |
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| ConeDodger |
Nov 17 2014, 10:35 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,574 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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QUOTE(Mueller @ Nov 16 2014, 11:19 AM) I might still have the drawings around, I'll try and look in the next few days. I have not spoken to Brad in about 3 years or so, no idea if cares if the drawing is released or not...all my current parts (2) I am making for Volvos I make the drawings available to the general public so I see no harm with these. Wouldn't take too much work to get them drawn up again, I remember most of the details. The 1st run was 7075, I really think 6061 would work just fine and save a good chunk of money on the raw billets. I thought I heard something about Mark Hayes making them? markasap on here.... I've been out of the 914 stuff for ages, trying to get back into the game slowly.... Mike, I have had these on my car for 5-6 years now. (I have the 5 lug variety) they have only one problem that I can see. The lugs loosen up. Perhaps instead of tapping them an insert? |
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| Mueller |
Nov 17 2014, 12:03 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Nov 17 2014, 08:35 AM) QUOTE(Mueller @ Nov 16 2014, 11:19 AM) I might still have the drawings around, I'll try and look in the next few days. I have not spoken to Brad in about 3 years or so, no idea if cares if the drawing is released or not...all my current parts (2) I am making for Volvos I make the drawings available to the general public so I see no harm with these. Wouldn't take too much work to get them drawn up again, I remember most of the details. The 1st run was 7075, I really think 6061 would work just fine and save a good chunk of money on the raw billets. I thought I heard something about Mark Hayes making them? markasap on here.... I've been out of the 914 stuff for ages, trying to get back into the game slowly.... Mike, I have had these on my car for 5-6 years now. (I have the 5 lug variety) they have only one problem that I can see. The lugs loosen up. Perhaps instead of tapping them an insert? From what I remember, I only dealt with the 4 lug version and those used Timecerts, no reason the 5 lug version couldn't have used those or have pressed in studs. I also want to say the 4 lug versions had an optional screw in stud, supplied by BBS Racing. |
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| 69telecaster |
Nov 17 2014, 12:28 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 101 Joined: 4-April 10 From: White Cloud, MI Member No.: 11,558 Region Association: None |
I have a machine shop, and we're ALWAYS looking for stuff to do. I reverse-engineered a set of hubs for my old Comet, to convert the square-flange 4-lug to round flange 5-lug...but the flange could be drilled for anything. Mine were made of steel with the separate flange welded on and finish machined. I saw photos of Brad Roberts' AL hubs on the other 914 forum some years ago. Drawings would make it real easy to estimate costs, and I'd love to have a look.
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| crash914 |
Nov 17 2014, 02:10 PM
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its a mystery to me Group: Members Posts: 1,826 Joined: 17-March 03 From: Marriottsville, MD Member No.: 434 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
When all is said and done, I need this with matching calipers also...kit..at around $800 I am all in...
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| zach914v8 |
Nov 17 2014, 02:10 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 216 Joined: 26-November 10 From: Houston Member No.: 12,426 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(69telecaster @ Nov 17 2014, 12:28 PM) I have a machine shop, and we're ALWAYS looking for stuff to do. I reverse-engineered a set of hubs for my old Comet, to convert the square-flange 4-lug to round flange 5-lug...but the flange could be drilled for anything. Mine were made of steel with the separate flange welded on and finish machined. I saw photos of Brad Roberts' AL hubs on the other 914 forum some years ago. Drawings would make it real easy to estimate costs, and I'd love to have a look. cm I think a lot of us would love to see the drawings, but if it comes to be that we have to design a new hub, my vote is for a hub that will use a bolt on wilwood piece. |
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| white1975 |
Nov 17 2014, 02:13 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 94 Joined: 28-December 10 From: Milford ohio Member No.: 12,529 Region Association: None |
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I would have them made with pressed in studs for the five lug |
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