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911 oil tank in 914?, im sure its been asked before- |
ft.lbs. |
Feb 1 2005, 11:31 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 41 Joined: 30-December 04 From: Jefferson,ME. Member No.: 3,376 |
why can't a 911 oil tank be mounted on the drivers or passenger side of a 914.Is it thicker due to the wide flares?
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iiibdsiil |
Feb 1 2005, 11:35 AM
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Needs Door Locks Group: Members Posts: 605 Joined: 19-November 03 From: Tampa / Boca Raton, FL Member No.: 1,362 |
The only reason I am going to say this is because this conversation was up like a week ago. Do a search. I know the search feature sucks on old posts, but that one is recent, so you shouldn't have to search through 10 years of crap to find it. (Yes, the forum has only been around what, 2 years or something?)
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brant |
Feb 1 2005, 11:52 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,624 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
tim or any of the shops.
does anyone have a picture of a 911 oil tank out of the car. that last thread, got me to thinking that I'd like to see one. |
Eric_Shea |
Feb 1 2005, 11:56 AM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
just put mine back in... sorry (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif)
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IronHillRestorations |
Feb 1 2005, 01:43 PM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,719 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
Do you have a 911 tank in your 914 Eric? I'd like to see that.
I've sold parts for 15-20 conversions, and don't know of anyone that's successfully used a 911 oil tank. I know of a few street cars that tried to use "generic" racer oil tanks, and ultimately changed to a stock or reproduction 914-6 tank. I know there's plenty of race cars with other than stock tanks, but they are a different breed. |
brant |
Feb 1 2005, 01:49 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,624 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I know that once upon a time there was a picture on the internet of a 914 that had a hole cut in the rear trunk so that the 911 oil tank was partially in the trunk and partially hanging below...
not a pretty or ideal location me thinks... |
BigD9146gt |
Feb 1 2005, 01:52 PM
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OCD member Group: Members Posts: 376 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 3,502 Region Association: Australia and New Zealand |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) with Perry,
I've only seen them in all-out racers. Dry sump tanks are simple by the very nature of the design... but finding a place for one (besides the stock location), in the small 914 is tough. I've seen several setups that place a round tank in the rear trunk next to the trans (and is a very succesful race car). You could do this with teh 911 tank, but why? For the same or less price of a 911 tank you could get an aluminum tank out of a dirt-track racing supplier that would look way better than an odd shapped 911 tank randomly placed in the car. And yes, the 911 tank is too wide to place it in the fenderwell without fender modification. |
brant |
Feb 1 2005, 02:13 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,624 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Also, who would want to move the weight rear on a -6... weight needs to move forward. I'm surprised that a successful racer would do this. |
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BigD9146gt |
Feb 1 2005, 02:22 PM
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OCD member Group: Members Posts: 376 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 3,502 Region Association: Australia and New Zealand |
Not every case of weight being moved back hinders the succesfulness of a car. Having more weight in the rear, like a 911, presents different challenges, sure, but with that comes improved brake weight distrabution, and better rear end acceleration hook-up.
On a side note, the 911 is, without any argument, the hardest sports car to drive at the limit. BUT, when driven correctly, is once of the fastest cars into, and out of corners. With that being said. mid engine rules all. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/aktion035.gif) |
brant |
Feb 1 2005, 02:46 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,624 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I can agree with that. I've driven 911's on the track too but while building a 914 as a race car, I would want to move any weight forward that I could and I would aspire towards a 50/50 weight distribution... I don't know any 914 racers that intentionally try to improve their handling by moving weight rearward. |
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Eric_Shea |
Feb 1 2005, 03:08 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I put my 911 tank back in my 911 (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
Me has a GPR tank... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) |
Eric_Shea |
Feb 1 2005, 03:11 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Yup, just read Vic Elford's book to see what could be done. He also states right up front that the ideal weight distribution is a car similar to a 924, 944, 968. 50:50 with the weight out at the ends, not in the middle like our little wondercars. |
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BigD9146gt |
Feb 1 2005, 03:29 PM
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OCD member Group: Members Posts: 376 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 3,502 Region Association: Australia and New Zealand |
Eric, do you have the aluminum GPR tank????
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Dave_Darling |
Feb 1 2005, 03:43 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,986 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
I've seen a 911 oil tank in a 914, in near the stock location.
Total hack-job. A number of holes were made in the 914 panel for the 911 hose mountings and oil filter console and mounting studs and such. I think one stud was too short and you couldn't get a nut onto it. The thing leaked like a sieve, out of all the joints. The only reason it fit at all was because someone had put 'glass GT flares on the lil sucker. Lapuwali has also seen the car. (He actually owned it for a little while!) He may remember the details better than I. --DD |
Eric_Shea |
Feb 1 2005, 04:03 PM
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Ahhhh Huuuuuuu (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) |
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BigD9146gt |
Feb 1 2005, 04:06 PM
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OCD member Group: Members Posts: 376 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 3,502 Region Association: Australia and New Zealand |
How do you like it? I heard those things are a peice of shit! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
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sixnotfour |
Feb 1 2005, 04:14 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,432 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Don , didnt you have something to do with those tanks ? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)
Just curious ,help me out here , Or did you have some other tank thing going 72 911 maybe ? |
BigD9146gt |
Feb 1 2005, 04:33 PM
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OCD member Group: Members Posts: 376 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 3,502 Region Association: Australia and New Zealand |
DAMN IT sixnotfour!!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/finger.gif)
You just had to go and screw up my plan! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool_shades.gif) Just kidding. All joking aside, yes, i had some small part with those tanks... well, small is not accurate either. I make them... Go figure, i've been making one today. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/boldblue.gif) Your also right about the 72 911 tank, i've got one in the works too. I cannot complete it because i need a 72 chassis for the strap and hole positioning. |
Eric_Shea |
Feb 1 2005, 04:52 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
It's a piece of $hit! Leaks oil all over the garage floor. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/w00t.gif)
Actually, it's never been used. It's sitting on my top shelf collecting dust (looking damn pretty doing it). I found a 911 filler neck and had it replated and I found an early 911 filter consoule to mount on it. Do me a big favor "pretty-please with sugar on top" tell me about it. What size are the fittings? Any internal baffling? I bought it second hand off another teener who never got around to installing it. It came with no info. I want to hook it up, find fittings, lines etc. but rather than trial and error I thought I could go right to the source. Also, talk to me about fuel lines... PM me if you'd like. Thanks in advance (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) |
sixnotfour |
Feb 1 2005, 05:36 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,432 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/happy11.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/happy11.gif)
Hey I gotta a 72, oil tank is out (rusted) Hurry up with them (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) I thought that was your opener ........... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/aktion035.gif) |
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