LS1 or smokin hot type 4 ?, Driveability ? Options

[got914?]

Hey everyone, just considering the above.

An LS1 is 350 hp and with the factory injection will both start and run like a dream.

A real done up type 4 will sound much nicer but obviolsuy about a bit more than half the power.

[mgp4591]

I'd think all that heat from a built up 4 is gonna have to go somewhere... any built engine is like a bomb- the more volatile it is the shorter the fuse!

[Bruce Hinds]

They'd be different cars for sure.

I went the 4 route many years ago. I had Zimms build up my 2.0 with cam, milled heads, webers . . . etc. It didn't have much low end, but it was a screamer and ran really well.

Shortly after getting the car back I read a story about one of the first V8 conversions and found I could have done that for the same money or less. That's probably still an accurate assessment.

So, that's just what I did. I actually had the SBC built the way I wanted and the cost of the Renegade set-up and all came out to less than I'd spend for the hot rod 4.

[thelogo]

Yeah your not gonna ever find much that beat s the l s motor as far as driveability

And of course it's common knowledge that the 4 is not made for or ever intended as a high power ,output motor with reliability. Duh . Any 4 over 100. Horses is pushin it imho ...

So I would say good old pushrod v8 is the way but I personally will never put the radiator out front or
Sacrifice my trucks so , when they figure that out I wanna be in the l s club too.


But 350 horse stock tires and brakes . You had better have some self control . Or install traction control

[larryM]

depends on what you want to do with it

if you just want a cafe & NASA racer and something to terrorize the drift crowd & stoplight racers, - go for the LS

an LS car would not be eligible for Porsche Club events

check the PCA rules, which require a Porsche engine

[thelogo]

P c a Thats a laugh I though this was narp

[Mark Henry]

To me once you go V8 you lost the whole point of owning a 914.
Big type 4 about 150hp or do a subi conversion.
But all of this costs money, my suggestion is to actually drive the car before you change things.

[speed metal army]

To me once you go V8 you lost the whole point of owning a 914.
Big type 4 about 150hp or do a subi conversion.
But all of this costs money, my suggestion is to actually drive the car before you change things.

Wrong, Wrong, you are wrong. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Lost the whole point of owning a 914?Really??That is funny (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Having driven both I can say both are fun. One sounds different, goes much quicker/faster and as long as suspension and braking upgrades are made, both handle like crazy. The whole point of owning a 914 is to have a wicked handling quick little car(gokart) that is super fun to boot!
Not possible with a V8? Bah! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bs.gif) Possibly even more fun.
My 2cents (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)

[PotterPorsche]

If I wanted a v8 I would install in a boxster like renagade did. Why not porsche 3.0 ,or 3.2 . If I had the money it would be 3.2 or 3.6 porsche engine. But for now I've begun collecting parts for 78mm x96mm

[Mike Bellis]

I think it's funny how so many are against V8 conversions but not against a subi. You will not be able to get 350hp cheaper than with a V8. For those who have driven a V88 914, it's hard to go back to a lower hp level.

I think the 914 is a great platform for engine conversions of any type. A big T4 will cost you $$$ but you will get more points from the purists.

If the suspension and brakes are setup correctly, a V8 is a blast to drive. A T4 can be a blast as well. A big T4 will cost way more than most us us can justify. You can build a 100-150hp T4 but that will still cost you $5K-$10K.

[mgp4591]

To me once you go V8 you lost the whole point of owning a 914.
Big type 4 about 150hp or do a subi conversion.
But all of this costs money, my suggestion is to actually drive the car before you change things.

I understand your point of view, but isn't that like saying "If you put a Ford V8 into an AC Ace you ruin the point of owning the AC" ? If Carroll Shelby had thought like that we'd have lost one of the iconic hotrods of all time! The 914 platform is the best of alot of worlds- mid engine, 2 seater, independant suspension, 4 wheel disc brakes, unit body construction, etc. etc. When all features are equally upgraded, you've got yourself one hell of a fun car! Or leave it stock- it's still fun!

[CptTripps]

The V8 changes the weight dynamics of the car. You also lose 1st gear unless you spend a lot of money on converting the trans.

Hot 4 if you don't want to do a lot of work with installing a radiator and everything that goes with it.

Subie of you don't mind installing a radiator and want to keep the weight the same with adding a lot of HP.

[DBCooper]

"If you put a Ford V8 into an AC Ace you ruin the point of owning the AC"

Ha ha. So I'm sitting here thinking that there must be a bunch of Ace Owners Club of America members out there still grumbling about how Shelby "ruined the character" of their damned fine car. Decades ago I worked with a guy who looked at both and chose to buy the Corvette because it had roll-up windows and the Cobra didn't. And he was still angry with himself about that. The lesson? Go for the gold.

[Mark Henry]

The V8 changes the weight dynamics of the car. You also lose 1st gear unless you spend a lot of money on converting the trans.

Hot 4 if you don't want to do a lot of work with installing a radiator and everything that goes with it.

Subie of you don't mind installing a radiator and want to keep the weight the same with adding a lot of HP.

This is my point, at least a subi is still a flat four or six.

Personally I'd never do anything but a T4 or /6 on a nice 914.
I admit it's personal preference, I've just never cared for these conversions.

[jgara962]

Put in a big Type 4. The car will have plenty of power and remain light and nimble. Putting a V8 (or anything other than a Type 4 or 6) ruins the car IMHO. If you want a V8 go buy a POS muscle car.

[sb914]

Wow

[GeorgeRud]

You'll never be disappointed with a -6 conversion as that's what the factory intended from the beginning. ( No disrespect to Jake or any other builders of high horsepower type4 engines).

It's your car, so do what floats you boat.

[mgp4591]

Lycoming? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Continental?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

[DBCooper]

Put in a big Type 4. The car will have plenty of power and remain light and nimble. Putting a V8 (or anything other than a Type 4 or 6) ruins the car IMHO. If you want a V8 go buy a POS muscle car.

POS? Seriously? Yup, turn down that Cobra... stay with the Ace.

[jgara962]

Put in a big Type 4. The car will have plenty of power and remain light and nimble. Putting a V8 (or anything other than a Type 4 or 6) ruins the car IMHO. If you want a V8 go buy a POS muscle car.

POS? Seriously? Yup, turn down that Cobra... stay with the Ace.

How many Cobras do you own?