914 Prices, Don't tell anyone, but.. Options

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[Root_Werks]

I hope this link works:

http://www.detroitautoworks.com/vehicle.as...ke&Make=Porsche

It is the brown/black 914 I have made 3 offers on over 2 years. The last one they said $4k and I walked.

[Root_Werks]

Here is what color it originally was. Note they don't have the floor mats in. Becuase the rear window seal is shot and the car sits outside. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif) The first offer I ever made on the car was for $4500 when it was all nice and shiny brown about 20 months ago? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif) They laughed at me.

[anthony]

QUOTE (bd1308 @ Feb 7 2005, 08:53 AM)

QUOTE (Root_Werks @ Feb 7 2005, 07:24 AM) A decent solid 914 or six will run more now than it did new. nope....look at infation over the 30 years. What cost $2000 in 1974 would cost $7914.61 in 2003. Also, if you were to buy exactly the same products in 2003 and 1974, they would cost you $2000 and $505.39 respectively http://www.westegg.com/inflation/infl.cgi well i dont remember what the 914 cost back then? I remember somewhere around 4K, so just go to the site and adjust that for 4K. People make alot more money now than they did.....

My uncle's new '74 2L was about $8,000 out the door.

[Root_Werks]

QUOTE (bd1308 @ Feb 7 2005, 07:53 AM)

QUOTE (Root_Werks @ Feb 7 2005, 07:24 AM) A decent solid 914 or six will run more now than it did new. nope....look at infation over the 30 years. What cost $2000 in 1974 would cost $7914.61 in 2003. Also, if you were to buy exactly the same products in 2003 and 1974, they would cost you $2000 and $505.39 respectively http://www.westegg.com/inflation/infl.cgi well i dont remember what the 914 cost back then? I remember somewhere around 4K, so just go to the site and adjust that for 4K. People make alot more money now than they did.....

And my parents first house payment was $75 a month many, many moons ago. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)

Thanks for doing the math, but yeah, I think we pretty much figured that. I guess I should have said that a good 20K miled 914 will be going for $10K+ these days. I wasn't talking about the decent 100K miled 73 2.0 for $5-6K. More premiun 914's that would be similar to something you could have bought new, when new. If that makes sense? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)

[bd1308]

QUOTE (Root_Werks @ Feb 7 2005, 08:18 AM)

And my parents first house payment was $75 a month many, many moons ago. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) Thanks for doing the math, but yeah, I think we pretty much figured that. I guess I should have said that a good 20K miled 914 will be going for $10K+ these days. I wasn't talking about the decent 100K miled 73 2.0 for $5-6K. More premiun 914's that would be similar to something you could have bought new, when new. If that makes sense? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)

point well taken (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

[Bleyseng]

What cost $7500 (price of a 76 914) in 1976 would cost $24508.29 in 2003. Same price as my 2003 Passat. This seems low compared to where the 914 was in the market place back then. I paid $5000 for my new Dasher in 76 after test driving a 76 914 at the same Dealer. Just couldn't get the wife to agree on buying the 914 for over $7500. I would say that in todays marketplace the 914 would be a $30000 car like the Audi TT.

Geoff

[bd1308]

well Howard, actually I am a mechanical engineer (or studying to be). The guys at Premiere thought that was a fine choice as a supplement to haveing a 914, unless I ever purchased a british sport car....then i'd need to be a electrical engineer....thanks to Lucas (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

[boxstr]

Dan I remeber that car from along time back. I only saw it with the black paint. Looks good all wet. I will take a look, if still there when I deliver the blue car.

I have a window sticker from a 1976 factory black 914 2.0 included aBlaupunkt am/fm/8 track/cb radio, nice car. $7680.89 out the door.

Alos speaking of 914 prices, it is hard to know where they are really going when you don't have honest and complete figures to use for calculations.
Auctions are not a true value of a car, only the "auction " value of a car. They do not represent an "arms length trancation" where you negotiate with the seller the final price(value) of a car.
An auction is to the highest bidder and not to what is a fair and reasonable value.
I have attended enough auctions, and read enough in Sports Car Market and dicussed with the "experts" to learn what the real value of a car is. It is not on ebay.PERIOD Those are just indicators of what you might expect to sell the car for on that market, the ebay market.
Look at the "bidders", and I use the term loosely, on the Tarzana car auction.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...4525636228&rd=1
CCLINPD

[Howard]

Craig, so what's your take on the 'real' values of the 22k+ 6 and the 15k+ 4? Were these foolish buys? I realize that collectors pay the damndest prices for the damndest things in general.

[skline]

Howard, if you need me to go by and look at that car, its very close to me. I acan go over and look it over and take more pictures of anything you need. Just let me know.













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[Root_Werks]

Craig, that black car is really worth the $4k they wanted the other day. I know it runs and drives out really nice. It just ticked me off was all. The whole situation did. I probably should have picked up the car? There is a couple of inches of water in the rear trunk now. This car is about 2 weeks from starting to rust. If someone can grab it, they will be it's savior. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

[boxstr]

Howard those were good buys if they are going to be an end user. If they bought then at that price to resale, no they were not good buys.
The car you are looking at is worth price if you get the 914-6 heat exchangers, you might be able to sell those, depending on condition, for much more than purchase price as of the posting.
Looks like a good project car, I am not a big fan of color change.
CCLINPD

[anthony]

I think when you look at these types of car individually it's easy to come to the conclusion that a mint condtion/restored 914-6 or 914-4 are still relative bargains as classic cars go.

The 914 still costs way more to restore one than it will be worth. If you restore paint, engine, tranny and interior on a 914-4 you're into the car for at least $15K not to mention the hundreds of hours you'll put in. On a 914-6 you might come close to breaking even on a restoration.

I'd still classify these cars as a "cheap thrill". Someone may say that $15K isn't cheap for a 914 but many people out there loose that much in depreciation in a few years on their daily driver vehicle.

[bd1308]

Dan, what you did was freggin hillarious! I alughed out loud during the class i was taking a test in when i heard that. Then I had to explain how I thought drawing dimensions and doing SolidWorks Part sketches were so funny.....but that was awesome. I bet that sales guy felt stupid.

[mightyohm]

Are the prices really going up or is the internet just bringing new suckers ready to be ripped off by cars that are not what they seem? I think the internet and forums like this board also serve to artificially bump up the prices of cars because they created a "perceived value" that may not match up with what the average 914 is really selling for.

Hmmm....

[Bleyseng]

No way, pristine 914's were going for 6000-7500 10 years ago now they are 10-14,000.

Geoff

[Howard]

QUOTE (bd1308 @ Feb 7 2005, 09:44 AM)

well Howard, actually I am a mechanical engineer (or studying to be). The guys at Premiere thought that was a fine choice as a supplement to haveing a 914, unless I ever purchased a british sport car....then i'd need to be a electrical engineer....thanks to Lucas (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

Sorry to lose a bright young guy to the dark side. Real money is in the business world. BSME is OK, but go on for your MBA. Then you can hire all the engineers you want (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

And I've jousted with Lucas, Prince of Darkness. EE won't help you there (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif)

[anthony]

QUOTE (Bleyseng @ Feb 7 2005, 02:24 PM)

No way, pristine 914's were going for 6000-7500 10 years ago now they are 10-14,000. Geoff

My uncle sold his pristine '74 2L about 10 years ago for $10K. See attached pic.

[bd1308]

QUOTE (Howard @ Feb 7 2005, 01:38 PM)

And I've jousted with Lucas, Prince of Darkness.  EE won't help you there  :wacko:

yeah here's a little story. Now i'm not sure when Lucas stopped doing stuff to brit cars, but there was a 1980ish Jaguar XJ6 sitting in the porsche shop. My starter or something broke (it's broke now too....this time it's griniding or something) and all the time i was there I heard then cranking and cranking and cranking and cranking on the starter. I looked over, saw it was a early Jag and asked what was going on. They just said that it was trypical old jag stuff.....thought it was funny, but i guess you had to be there. On another side note, my dad had a MG Midget....he said it was $hit and he kept on snapping axles....that'll ruin your day (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)