 Anyone toy with the idea of an SRT4 turbo engine ? |
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| got914? |
 Feb 12 2015, 06:57 PM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 8-October 14 From: Niagara Member No.: 17,993 Region Association: None  |
IM thinking of taking the engine and harness out of my pt cruiser GT.
225 HP 4 cylinder with lots of bolt on mods to take it to 300. |
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| rhodyguy |
Feb 12 2015, 07:16 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,080 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
We have a HO GT too. I've wondered the same as you. Those Mitsubishi engines are pretty strong when the boost comes up. Popular with the 'tuner' crowd.
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| rnellums |
Feb 12 2015, 08:47 PM
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Professional Enthusiast Group: Members Posts: 1,646 Joined: 26-November 09 From: Littleton, CO Member No.: 11,072 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
What is the weight like? And more importantly what are your transmission options?
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| rhodyguy |
Feb 13 2015, 07:43 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,080 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
if one could make the get getrag 5sp to work in a 914 it would be a sweet package. they are nice, positive shifting units. i KNOW the engine/trans is good for 120 (i had seen enough) in a much heavier car than a 914.
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| Mark Henry |
Feb 13 2015, 08:14 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(rnellums @ Feb 12 2015, 09:47 PM)  What is the weight like? And more importantly what are your transmission options? Weight, length, height and depth? |
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| got914? |
Feb 13 2015, 08:30 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 8-October 14 From: Niagara Member No.: 17,993 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Feb 13 2015, 09:14 AM) QUOTE(rnellums @ Feb 12 2015, 09:47 PM) What is the weight like? And more importantly what are your transmission options? Weight, length, height and depth? I will go measure mine today and post. What ive read engine is 340 lbs or so. |
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| Mueller |
Feb 13 2015, 08:56 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None 
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QUOTE(got914? @ Feb 13 2015, 06:30 AM) QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Feb 13 2015, 09:14 AM) QUOTE(rnellums @ Feb 12 2015, 09:47 PM) What is the weight like? And more importantly what are your transmission options? Weight, length, height and depth? I will go measure mine today and post. What ive read engine is 340 lbs or so. That sounds about right, I've weighed 2 different motors I had at home not too long ago. Volvo B230F, 4 cylinder, iron block, SOHC: 300 pounds Volvo T5 5 cylinder, aluminum block, DOHC: 330 pounds As for the Neon motor, sure it'll work and similar motors have been done before. The question is can YOU do it....a shop will charge too much so it is up to you to fabricate the motor mounts, do all the wiring and all the related stuff to get it going. Kennedy Engineering sells an adapter plate with the correct flywheel...expect to pay $500 to $800 for that setup. Doing the Neon motor will be no different than the other inline 4 cylinder swaps that have been done before, such as the Honda or Mitsubishi swaps on the site. |
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| VaccaRabite |
Feb 13 2015, 10:19 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,444 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
The SRT engine will have the added challenges of turbocharging. It won't be a straight forward 4cyl swap. But, the outcome would be pretty rad.
Still, if it were me I'd go Suby simply to have a lot of the pitfalls done by all the others that have done the swap. Zach |
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| Mark Henry |
Feb 13 2015, 10:25 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
The one I might consider out of the 4 cylinders is the GM Ecotec engine.
250lbs, aluminum block, KEP adaptor to VW trans already available, very cheap plentiful cores and all kinds of hop up options. The Baja bug and sandrail crowd already use these because they weigh the same as a VW type one motor. http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/engine/hrdp-0...cotec-bolt-ons/ This one made 372HP (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/image.hotrod.com-26-1423844754.1.jpg) |
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| Andyrew |
Feb 13 2015, 10:38 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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Boy that looks just like a VW/Audi 1.8 with a supercharger instead of a turbo...
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| Andyrew |
Feb 13 2015, 10:49 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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The problem I have with superchargers and low displacement is that one of my primary reasons for a low displacement high hp motor is to be able to run on low HP.
For example if you are running anywhere near stock tire sizes your going to be spinning in first gear with over 300hp with most tire choices. With a turbo you can limit the boost in first and even second if you need it. You can also run WAY more power and be streetable on a turbo. Just some food for thought. |
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| Bulldog9 |
Feb 13 2015, 11:41 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 705 Joined: 21-August 13 From: United States Member No.: 16,283 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
That EOTECH was a sweet motor, used in Saabs as well. hmmmm.......
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| crawler |
Feb 13 2015, 03:07 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 20 Joined: 25-July 08 From: mesa, Arizona Member No.: 9,356 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Steve Pratel @ Feb 13 2015, 10:41 AM) That EOTECH was a sweet motor, used in Saabs as well. hmmmm....... Mabe,look into the Chevy 3.6 Camaro or the 2015 4.3 just like the V-8 only a v-6. Its not your old 4.3 anymore. |
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| 914forme |
Feb 13 2015, 06:28 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(crawler @ Feb 13 2015, 04:07 PM) QUOTE(Steve Pratel @ Feb 13 2015, 10:41 AM) That EOTECH was a sweet motor, used in Saabs as well. hmmmm....... Mabe,look into the Chevy 3.6 Camaro or the 2015 4.3 just like the V-8 only a v-6. Its not your old 4.3 anymore. SAE-certified at 285 horsepower (212 kW) and 305 lb.-ft. of torque (413 Nm) Looks like a nice transition I need to change out my boat |
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| mgp4591 |
Feb 13 2015, 06:36 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,372 Joined: 1-August 12 From: Salt Lake City Ut Member No.: 14,748 Region Association: Intermountain Region
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QUOTE(crawler @ Feb 13 2015, 02:07 PM) QUOTE(Steve Pratel @ Feb 13 2015, 10:41 AM) That EOTECH was a sweet motor, used in Saabs as well. hmmmm....... Mabe,look into the Chevy 3.6 Camaro or the 2015 4.3 just like the V-8 only a v-6. Its not your old 4.3 anymore. Anyone ever try a Quad 4? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) They were big with the Fiero crowd and may still be- I did a few one off exhaust systems for those back in the day. Good HP and compact, light too and revvy. One set records out here at Bonneville in an Olds experimental chassis. I don't know about availability tho... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Is the PT turbo engine based on the 4AG Mitsubishi engine? |
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| mikesmith |
Feb 14 2015, 06:11 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 202 Joined: 5-September 13 From: SF Member No.: 16,354 Region Association: Northern California |
4AG is a Toyota motor. The PT motor is not a Mitsubishi design; confusion sometimes arises because it was used as the NA motor in the second-generation DSM lineup alongside the 4G63 turbo.
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