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> NPC - Ye Olde Vanagon Thread, Let's (try to) rebuild a WBX engine
Chris H.
post Mar 1 2015, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Mar 1 2015, 09:23 PM) *

Stop it, Chris H.! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) I am trying to cut back. That last one had me tempted. I will buy just about any project that is <$3K.

Jerk (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


HAHA! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) Hey I can't go through this addiction alone man. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)

Cool thing is there probably isn't a huge market for that one.... It has great bones, but it's got no rear seats and someone else's business logo on it. Call it a "delivery van" all you want...it's just a van with no rear seats. Let's see if it sits a while...maybe the price will go down EVEN MORE!
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post Mar 2 2015, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE(Chris H. @ Mar 1 2015, 09:38 PM) *

A Syncro Doublecab you mean? Jamie! Pics!

Doc, this one is south of you...

Delivery Van

Says "very good" condition...might be a nice tranny hauler/mobile workshop but you'd have to look at it to be sure. Guessing the back seats are no longer there.


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That's just south of me, no no no, I don't need it
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post Mar 2 2015, 08:29 PM
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If it were a synchro I would buy it now. I am holding out. I have a local friend that me be interested.

Stephen, when you coming over for a visit? I am less than 1hr away.
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post Mar 3 2015, 09:19 AM
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Another possible nice one posted in the wrong place on The Samba...

Brown Vannie

Disclaimer: I know NOTHING about these Samba Vanagons for sale...just throwing them out there.

BTW what are we looking for rust-wise? Front door step plates? Underside?
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post Mar 3 2015, 10:06 PM
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Okay Jonathon sent me a few Pics


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post Mar 3 2015, 10:23 PM
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post Mar 3 2015, 11:54 PM
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QUOTE(Chris H. @ Mar 3 2015, 07:19 AM) *

Another possible nice one posted in the wrong place on The Samba...

Brown Vannie

Disclaimer: I know NOTHING about these Samba Vanagons for sale...just throwing them out there.

BTW what are we looking for rust-wise? Front door step plates? Underside?


Decent looking van, but it's an automatic. Many of these get named 'Turtle'....which is an insult to turtles everywhere.
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post Mar 4 2015, 08:02 AM
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Well that's good info Marc...'cause I thought I wanted an auto. Are people swapping to Subie auto or what?
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post Mar 4 2015, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE(Chris H. @ Mar 4 2015, 06:02 AM) *

Well that's good info Marc...'cause I thought I wanted an auto. Are people swapping to Subie auto or what?


I'm not sure Chris. I would think it could be done with some research and creative machining. I have no idea how much hp that tranny can handle.

I've driven one AT Vanagon and that was a Westy with a 1.9 so it was really underpowered; almost to the point of being unsafe IMO. I'll ask my conversion mechanic whether he's done any automatics.
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post Mar 4 2015, 01:50 PM
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Cool, thanks. When I look at one of these I'm assuming the stock engine is coming out, but you do bring up a good point.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) how much can the Vanagon auto trans handle? Probably not designed for high hp...wonder how many engine/trans swaps are out there and what they are?

Wow those synchros are bad a$$ Jamie. The silver one (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) .
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post Mar 6 2015, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(Chris H. @ Mar 4 2015, 11:50 AM) *

Cool, thanks. When I look at one of these I'm assuming the stock engine is coming out, but you do bring up a good point.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) how much can the Vanagon auto trans handle? Probably not designed for high hp...wonder how many engine/trans swaps are out there and what they are?

Wow those synchros are bad a$$ Jamie. The silver one (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) .

According to my conversion specialist, the VW a/t works very well with Subies. They 'do it all the time'. He even has a custom made adapter plate he sells and will be offering a complete conversion kit within the next month - you supply the engine. NorthWesty
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post Mar 7 2015, 02:00 AM
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Did someone say Vanagon? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Still sitting on the sidelines since a recent evaluation on my 1.9L was good (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Would love an H6, except for the fuel economy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

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post Mar 7 2015, 12:45 PM
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I've done a couple of Vanagon conversions (Westy Diesel to GTI engine in 1997, and Westy Syncro to Suby 2.2 in 2002), and the Suby conversion was by far the best of the two. I'd get 25mpg at 6k feet elevation and would cruise up over Donner Pass at 55mph loaded. I wish I never sold it in 2005 for $9900, even though I sold it to Warren Chapman (God rest his sole -- he was one of the Suby conversion pioneers). That vehicle would be worth twice that today!

My latest is a recently-completed TDI swap into a '93 Eurovan Weekender. I'll bring it to the West Coast Ramble because my Suby-914 isn't done yet (!!). I just got the EV running a few weeks ago and I'm still working through a few small issues. The Eurovan is not as well-loved as the Vanagon, but IMHO it is worlds better in terms of driveability -- the air conditioning system is vastly superior, it is quieter inside, the suspension is cushy, and the cooling and exhaust systems don't seem like an afterthought. YMMV.
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post Mar 7 2015, 12:49 PM
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IIRC the stock AT was also used on the 1980's Oettenger H-6 conversion too with no problems, & maybe on that Porsche B32 3.2 Carerra when not the G50 stick too.

My brain is jelly now with all my other family stuff, so I don't remember the HP/TQ nos. on either Oettenger nor the B32, but they're probably not far off the modern Subie H-6s.

Nice Westy Mark - I see you did the solar set-up for boon-docking too! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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QUOTE(strawman @ Mar 7 2015, 10:45 AM) *

I've done a couple of Vanagon conversions (Westy Diesel to GTI engine in 1997, and Westy Syncro to Suby 2.2 in 2002), and the Suby conversion was by far the best of the two. I'd get 25mpg at 6k feet elevation and would cruise up over Donner Pass at 55mph loaded. I wish I never sold it in 2005 for $9900, even though I sold it to Warren Chapman (God rest his sole -- he was one of the Suby conversion pioneers). That vehicle would be worth twice that today!

My latest is a recently-completed TDI swap into a '93 Eurovan Weekender. I'll bring it to the West Coast Ramble because my Suby-914 isn't done yet (!!). I just got the EV running a few weeks ago and I'm still working through a few small issues. The Eurovan is not as well-loved as the Vanagon, but IMHO it is worlds better in terms of driveability -- the air conditioning system is vastly superior, it is quieter inside, the suspension is cushy, and the cooling and exhaust systems don't seem like an afterthought. YMMV.


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I think the hot ticket in the Eurovan T5 era was the Winnebago full camper conversion, which was also was a step more refined than the Vanagon T3/T25 ones.

Once they got the VR6 & some VW quality issues resolved - the Winnegao Rialta was a sweet rig too, but too big to double as your DD.

We almost switched to both of those at different points of the 1990's, but I'm glad we kept the Vano-Westy.
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Would love an H6, except for the fuel economy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)


Best I've gotten under any circumstances is 16mpg. My right foot does have a weight problem. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)
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I'll be driving 'Eileen' up to the Seattle area sometime this summer to pick up one of my Honda Mini Trails I left up there. I'd like to check out your conversion, Marc.

But then again, maybe I shouldn't ... the 1200 mile trip home with an anemic 1.9L would probably be pretty miserable (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

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QUOTE(euro911 @ Mar 7 2015, 12:15 PM) *

I'll be driving 'Eileen' up to the Seattle area sometime this summer to pick up one of my Honda Mini Trails I left up there. I'd like to check out your conversion, Marc.

But then again, maybe I shouldn't ... the 1200 mile trip home with an anemic 1.9L would probably be pretty miserable (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

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I'll even let you drive Tintipi, Mark....see how you'll feel about the drive home then. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)

BTW, you're welcome to camp in my back 40.
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My 1985 doka; the German8r
400 hp Lt1 350", cruises in 5th (g50/5 speed) at 75 mph about 2800 rpm.
Real smooth freeway truck.
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My 1985 doka; the German8r
400 hp Lt1 350", cruises in 5th (g50/5 speed) at 75 mph about 2800 rpm.
Real smooth freeway truck.
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Have you got any pictures of it doing wheelies? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif)
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