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| messix |
 Mar 11 2015, 12:00 AM
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AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"!  Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest  |
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| Dr Evil |
Mar 11 2015, 07:25 AM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,993 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region 
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The price is not a misprint, they want what they put into it, not any profit. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Good luck with that.
However, I see a few advertized in the $70K side. It doesnt mean they are getting it, but that is the face people see in this niche market. I saw a synchro just south of me last weekend. I was surprised....and envious. It was worn, but that is cool. |
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| Chris H. |
Mar 11 2015, 07:56 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4,028 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Chicago 'burbs Member No.: 73 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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You saw the ad right?
"This Van is really special. " It's SPECIAL. C'mon! Yeah for $109k....hmmmm...I'm not buying a Vanagon. No question it's a nice one though. Love the color and '80's graphics. I'll take a worn one too...for 1/10th the price. |
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| euro911 |
Mar 11 2015, 11:46 AM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,845 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California
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These are getting to be as good of an investment as early Porsche 911s (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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| Maltese Falcon |
Mar 11 2015, 12:26 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,634 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Mulholland SoCal Member No.: 2,755 Region Association: None  |
QUOTE(KELTY360 @ Mar 8 2015, 08:06 AM)  QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Mar 7 2015, 11:42 PM) My 1985 doka; the German8r 400 hp Lt1 350", cruises in 5th (g50/5 speed) at 75 mph about 2800 rpm. Real smooth freeway truck. Marty Have you got any pictures of it doing wheelies? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) No pics of Wheelies. ..but I do have the two halves of one axle that snapped (sway-away). These make excellent workbench tools in the welding shop (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Marty |
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| Chris H. |
Mar 11 2015, 12:48 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4,028 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Chicago 'burbs Member No.: 73 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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QUOTE(euro911 @ Mar 11 2015, 12:46 PM) These are getting to be as good of an investment as early Porsche 911s (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Yeah Mark can you make me a list of the cars you own and send it over? So far you've done REALLY well. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I'll just buy what you have and park 'em. |
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| Tom_T |
Mar 11 2015, 02:25 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(Chris H. @ Mar 11 2015, 05:56 AM) You saw the ad right? "This Van is really special. " It's SPECIAL. C'mon! Yeah for $109k....hmmmm...I'm not buying a Vanagon. No question it's a nice one though. Love the color and '80's graphics. I'll take a worn one too...for 1/10th the price. He'll get close to it I'll bet! Go to the GoWesty website & look at their current & past sales history on restored Vano's & Westies. Although prices dipped during the "Great Recession" 2008-13-ish, they're back on track again, & Syncro Westies typically were selling for nearly $100k before the crash! .... & will again soon IMHO. So all the other 2WD & AT Westies, Weekenders, etc. will also go up respectively. Don't believe what you see for prices on NADA, KBB, Edmunds, etc. for the Vano Westies, Dokas, Synchros, etc. - cuz they're only covering the non-restored ones which are mostly POS's, DDs or project cars! That's why I wasn't too unhappy when I had to move our Westy's resto up in front of my 914 when my wife got clipped in the Westy & the original paint clear coat was failing & the spot repair wouldn't adhere or last properly. The Westy is worth more done than my `73 914-2.0 when done & until 914 prices come up a bit more than already. I still need to get an "official" appriasal on our Westy, but several value estimates are that it's easily in the $35-50k+ range now, & could go to $50-70k-ish when we get the GoWesty 2.5L in there (waiting for it's next need to rebuild the heads or whatever for that). Cheers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// |
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| KELTY360 |
Mar 11 2015, 02:35 PM
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914 Neferati Group: Members Posts: 5,030 Joined: 31-December 05 From: Pt. Townsend, WA Member No.: 5,344 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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A Westy Vanagon is also one of the very few vehicles that can be worth more with a well done engine conversion than a stock one.
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| euro911 |
Mar 12 2015, 04:14 AM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,845 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California
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I'd really like to stuff a 2.2L Subi in Eileen. I think it would be a good trade-off - more HP and good fuel economy. There are times when I could use a bit more poop under the pedal (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
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| Chris H. |
Mar 16 2015, 10:43 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4,028 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Chicago 'burbs Member No.: 73 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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Samba deals du jour:
Logovan down $300... Down to $2600! These are what I'd like to have (but have too much on my plate to buy right now): 91 Carat 87 Wolfie Nice Synchro for someone (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) : Synchro L |
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| euro911 |
Mar 16 2015, 02:10 PM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,845 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California
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I should buy that Syncro and stick the Westy pop-top on it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ...
... except my wife would probably beat me to a bloody pulp (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) |
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| euro911 |
Mar 16 2015, 09:06 PM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,845 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California
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OK, here's another VW product who's market value is higher than our little 914s (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
Click here (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) |
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| Johny Blackstain |
Mar 16 2015, 09:50 PM
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Walnut Elite Stratocaster player Group: Members Posts: 3,434 Joined: 5-December 06 From: The Shenandoah River Member No.: 7,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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| colingreene |
Mar 16 2015, 10:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 729 Joined: 17-October 13 From: Southern California Member No.: 16,526 Region Association: Southern California |
Mark,
If you ever decide to make that dream a reality ill be there for you to help with the heavy lifting. could be fun. |
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| euro911 |
Mar 16 2015, 10:36 PM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,845 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California
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Which dream? ... that Syncro, or stuffing a Suby 2.2L into Eileen? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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| blabla914 |
Mar 17 2015, 10:05 AM
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I like primer Group: Members Posts: 321 Joined: 1-March 04 From: Connecticut Member No.: 1,740 Region Association: None
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I'm just going to leave this here.........
Porsche 991 wheelbase 96.5" (96.7" for GT3) Vanagon wheelbase 96.9" discuss...... |
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| KELTY360 |
Mar 17 2015, 10:21 AM
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914 Neferati Group: Members Posts: 5,030 Joined: 31-December 05 From: Pt. Townsend, WA Member No.: 5,344 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(blabla914 @ Mar 17 2015, 08:05 AM) I'm just going to leave this here......... Porsche 991 wheelbase 96.5" (96.7" for GT3) Vanagon wheelbase 96.9" discuss...... 991 weight distribution: 39/61 Vanagon weight distribution: ~ 51/49 (depending on model Vanagon weight distribution) 914 weight distribution: 46/54 914 wheelbase: 96.5 |
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| Chris H. |
Mar 18 2015, 06:26 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4,028 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Chicago 'burbs Member No.: 73 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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QUOTE(euro911 @ Mar 16 2015, 03:10 PM) I should buy that Syncro and stick the Westy pop-top on it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ... ... except my wife would probably beat me to a bloody pulp (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) Sale pending on the Synchro... Mark (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ? Interesting stats on the Vanagon F/R balance and dimensions... What do you do for suspension when you double or triple the power? Is there an aftermarket for that stuff to stiffen it up and get it lower ? |
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| KELTY360 |
Mar 18 2015, 08:37 AM
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914 Neferati Group: Members Posts: 5,030 Joined: 31-December 05 From: Pt. Townsend, WA Member No.: 5,344 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(Chris H. @ Mar 18 2015, 04:26 AM) Interesting stats on the Vanagon F/R balance and dimensions... What do you do for suspension when you double or triple the power? Is there an aftermarket for that stuff to stiffen it up and get it lower ? The stock Syncro suspension is pretty beefy as it stands. My eg33 probably adds 150-200# which probably means my weight distribution flips to ~49/51. The Syncro comes stock with a stout front sway bar but none in the rear. I've upgraded to the larger Audi brake package in the front while the rears are stock drums. I've had a couple of instances of 'panic braking' due to careless drivers and the brakes were superb, helping to maintain precise control. Handling is surprisingly nimble, no doubt enhanced by the additional power. Instead of relying on momentum driving, the pedal under the right foot is actually functional. This is especially satisfying on mountain roads with uphill hairpins. For my rig, lowering is not desirable and I am aware of a higher cg; but it's not uncomfortable by any means. I think the Vanagon suspension is over-engineered for the stock engine and doubling the power serves to unlock attributes hidden by weak performance. I really like driving Tintipi. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
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| dcheek |
Mar 18 2015, 11:40 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 691 Joined: 30-May 06 From: Westfield, New Jersey Member No.: 6,103 |
Here is my 1982 Vanagon Diesel
1.6 liter 48 HP 109 lb.ft. of torque I have to laugh at those specs. And yes, it's slower than whale shit off the line. A buzz box at 60 MPH. I paid $1500 for it 10 years ago. It was a deal even back then. The PO replaced the motor with a VW factory rebuilt long block so, the motor is essentially new. Also, there is zero rust do to the "Rusty Jones" treatment. Hauls 7 people in total comfort with room to spare and does not affect the performance (it couldn't get much slower). 27 cranks to open the dining table size sunroof. I didn't buy it to go fast - obviously.  If I was going to do a conversion, I would go with the Suby boxer Diesel. Here is a YouTube vid. of one in action. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so6raO3UTWA Dave |
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