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> Laws on Picketing in Calif, Need a lawyer, so I don't go to jail
DonTraver
post Feb 12 2005, 12:31 PM
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Went to hospital last Wed (2-9-05) to get a blood test. Parked my 914-6, when I got about 20 feet away from the 6, saw a older woman, 65+ park next to the 6, she was toooooooo close. I walked back, said to her, Ms, you're too close to my car to get out of yours without dinging my car. As I finished saying it, she said, oh no, I can get out, BANG, there goes her door into the side of the 6. I was stunned, then she proceded to try to wiggle her fat ass and hips out a 6 inch gap in her door, dinging the side of my 6 at least 2 more times. I looked down the side of my 6 and said, you just dinged my car. Bitch gave my a dirty look, like how dare you question me.

I walked away, screaming. Caught her at the elevator, said I needed her insurance info. As I was going to file a claim. Which I did when I got home.

Now this scumbag BITCH is saying, It never happened, effectively calling me a liar. Like I've got nothing better to do than make up wild stories.

My insurance guy is pissed too, found out he owns a 944 widebody turbo. Her insurance is saying, tough, we believe her (Farmers).

If the claim is denied, I will take her to small claims court, and I also want to picket her house.

I am sick and tired of assholes screwing up my property and I get left holding the bag and they walk away scott free. NO MORE.

This 914-6 has been in the family for 35 years, I got her from my step dad, he sold her to me, cause he knew I'd restore her and take care of her. Then this bitch says, You don't count, I have a right to damage your property, cause your in my way.

So what are the l;aws about picketing someones house?
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post Feb 12 2005, 12:38 PM
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Well, I dont think it will do you any good to picket her house. I am not even sure how I would have handled that situation myself. I might have just reached out and bashed one of her windows and said you are right, it never happened. I always park as far away from everyone as possible, especially old people and the imported ones that cant drive, we all know who they are.

Oh, I always carry my camera with me too, so i would have taken pictures on the spot.
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post Feb 12 2005, 12:45 PM
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that sucks! i have a situation like that, although i have a beater 914, and i mean a real beater. i just door banged her back a few more times while she looked on...why is it always fat women?
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post Feb 12 2005, 12:51 PM
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Sorry Don.

But that's why when mine is completed it won't spend much time in public parking lots. BTDT

People just don't give a shit anymore. "It's all about me!"
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post Feb 12 2005, 12:53 PM
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Well, I dont think it will do you any good to picket her house. I am not even sure how I would have handled that situation myself. I might have just reached out and bashed one of her windows and said you are right, it never happened. I always park as far away from everyone as possible, especially old people and the imported ones that cant drive, we all know who they are.

Oh, I always carry my camera with me too, so i would have taken pictures on the spot.  


I agree, unfortunatly there's probably not much you can do, put the claim in, the insurance company will probably say it was private property, blah blah blah, take her to small claims court, it will be she said he said, just learn from it and keep a disposable camera in your car park further out in the parking lot and move on. Not worth ending up in the hospital yourself with a heart attack. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/mad.gif)
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post Feb 12 2005, 12:54 PM
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Damn, Don. You have all of the luck. Time to visit the shaman again. You usually need to have a permit to pettition, but you would likely be denied, and charged with disturbing the peace, being a public neucence (sp?), and stalking. Plus, depending an what you would be stating, slander, harrasment, making threats (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif) and on and on.

The assholes make the laws to protect the assholes. I am sorry to hear about this, let me know if you need help with the paint. I'll try to stop by and say hi soon.
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post Feb 12 2005, 12:58 PM
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If the claim is denied....go shit on her doorstep.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/bootyshake.gif)
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post Feb 12 2005, 05:04 PM
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Did you get her insurance information? If you did I would point out to "Farmers" that she gave you the information at the time, knowing she was guilty, and if it did not really happen why would she have given the info to a stranger in the first place? Makes a case I would use in small claims also. Don't let them run you over!!! Keep calling and complaining to the next person in line. Also show them that the car is worth some big $$$ so they dont think it is an old "VW".

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post Feb 12 2005, 05:08 PM
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I am NOT licensed in california, but a gerneral rule of thumb is that you cannot picket a residence without fear of arrest unless a business is being run from it.
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post Feb 12 2005, 06:34 PM
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why crap on her door step? just kick her in the nuts, and while she's on the ground crying in pain, crap in her mouth. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/pain30.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) i hate old fat ladies! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/flipa.gif)
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post Feb 12 2005, 06:56 PM
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I'm not a lawyer, but an insurance broker, and we do handle these all the time. Assuming Farmers is her carrier, don't be too pissed at them, as they have to take the statement from their client. Have they denied the claim in writing? If so, my suggestion is to get 2 estimates, bite the bullet and file a small claims action. Measure the height on the damage and the door of that model car. Bring photos of the damage. Plaintiffs win in about 95% of these cases.

Had this happen to me once, and same kind of response. Guy just said fagettaboutit and left. Got the plate #, called police, desk guy was a car nut, and they went out and cited him for hit and run (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif)
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post Feb 12 2005, 07:46 PM
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Maybe you can find someone that has the same car as hers, and then take a picture with their door opening and hold the door about a mm from the dent so you can see in the picture that the door hits in the same spot, yada yada.
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post Feb 12 2005, 08:35 PM
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Judges in small claims (and other) courts deal with credibility all the time. Two different stories, who is telling the truth. The best become very adept at making accurate judgments. Go for it, I think he'll find you credible.
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post Feb 12 2005, 08:55 PM
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If you have full coverage on the car, (i am assuming you do) - I would file a cliam on your PIP and have your carrier go after her...
I am not an insurance agent, and I don't live in a no fault state. I have had situation where I had a car totaled due to someone elses fault and their carrier wanted to pay me about $1500 less than blue book wholesale -
Filed a claim on my PIP, got the full value of the car, and my carrier went after them, and dealt with the headaches....
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post Feb 12 2005, 09:03 PM
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be sure to account for her fat ass in assessing door ding hiegths A fat ass can really compress the suspension.



Why picket her house?, Instead throw rocks thru her windows, set her cat on fire, flatten her tires, stalk her children, round-up on her front lawn,sand in her gas tank, hell tourch the house. Uh, on second thought, maybe not! Take it to court, have you facts straight, be very respectful of the judge, never interrupt the judge nor the defendant, present a good solid case, and you might win. Since she has insurance, you will likely be paid (with no insurance soemtimes it is hard to collect on an individual from a judgement.)

Does she work at the place? If so, let the judge know that also, that would help place her at the location.
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post Feb 12 2005, 09:15 PM
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Somebody mentioned it above, but I'll second the suggestion to keep a camera (disposable type is fine) in your car at all times. I have been doing that ever since I had a run-in with a lying dirtbag myself a few years ago.

Personally I would not have let the woman leave the premises. Here in LA the cops won't come out unless somebody is being raped or killed. Of course the Fire Dept. does come out if there's a car fire though... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/happy11.gif)
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post Feb 12 2005, 09:35 PM
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udges in small claims (and other) courts deal with credibility all the time. Two different stories, who is telling the truth.


Sounds pretty self-evident. Don't screw up yer case with rash reaction. You've got this. Take some pictures. Cite the obvious (above). Case closed.
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post Feb 13 2005, 02:07 PM
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Update: My insurance company adjuster came over, took a look at the ding, wasn't happy (He owns a 944 Porsche). Got a letter from my insurance company. Put me 0% responsible for ding, her 100% responsible for ding. Letter said they will go after her for the amount of my deductable ($100). Also got letter from her insurance saying I'd filed a claim, not if they were going to do anything about it. But a start. Also had phone numbers and name of adjuster assigned to my claim. They are going to get a lot of phone calls.

I haven't called her yet. That will only happen if the claim is denied. Then I'll haul her ass into court.

This Bitch is just one of many assholes in this county that have no respect for someone else's property. Most would just write this off, I'm just not one to do that. Ask Harley-Davidson, when I was through with them, I not only got a new engine, everything replaced on my bike I didn't like, But a Harley Paid rental car for a month. I never had a problem with them after that.

Later, Don

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post Feb 24 2005, 10:40 AM
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I had heard that Farmers Insurance was a pia, and they were right. They assigned me 3 different adjusters, and got the run around by all of them. Finally, I called them up, said I was tired of jumping thru their hoops and was gonna put a report in with the BBB and the Calif Insurance Dept if their adjuster didn't show up by the 24th. Called them the 23rd.

Got a call about 3 hours later, adjuster wanted to set up a appointment to check the car on the 24th.

He came over, showed up on time even. Said they'd cut a check for the repairs. I told him I was not going to sign off until the repair was completed. Gonna try for that paintless repair. But the paintless guy said he didn't think he'd crack the paint, but it was possible, if that happened, the complete fender would have to be repainted. The adjuster agreed with that. If the paint was cracked trying the paintless repair, they would pay for the complete fender.

I think they were hoping that I'd just go away, not gonna happen. What really pissed me off was their attitude and the runaround. So that's where it stands now. Guess the morale of this story is, if you try to be nice/polite with insurance companies, you're the one that gets screwed.
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post Feb 24 2005, 12:34 PM
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What about FatAss? At least a slap on the hand for lying. You should take a hammer to her car sometime. Like two years down the line. I hate liars. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ar15.gif)

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