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GaroldShaffer
post Mar 21 2015, 06:23 PM
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Received an email about the new "Heritage Classic" class from SCCA for all of us guys running "old" cars that can't compete with the more modern cars of today.

I always thought it was a bunch of BS that SCCA had this rule if the car was over 30yrs old it was automatically put in a prepared class even if it was stock. This now give guys with more stock 914's (and other vintage stock) a chance to compete against equal cars. EDIT reading the rules there is A LOT you can do to your 914 and still run in this class. Looks to be a few different levels to the Heritage Classic class

Below is the email I received:

As of March 19th, a new supplemental solo class has been formed - Heritage Classic. The intent of this class is to provide a place for older technology cars to compete without the fear of being overrun by the new, high tech offerings that often exceed what was possible 40 or more years ago. Many names were considered but the final decision by Howard Duncan was to call it "Heritage Classic". This name is consistent with the theme and intent of the class and the recently formed "Classic American Muscle" category. While there has been a list of cars established the committee is interested in hearing requests for cars not on the list that would like to be included.

For more details go to the Solo section and look in "Cars and Rules". If you don't see a car on the list that you think should be included and want to come and play, let Howard or Doug Gill know through the SCCA web site. Preparation rules are also listed.

If you think it would be of interest to someone you know please spread the word.

Rationale: The purpose of Heritage Classic (HC) is to enable enthusiasts of sports cars and sedans from the early years of the SCCA to participate at SCCA Solo events with cars of similar technology. This participation can range from those wanting to see these cars in a competition setting, to those just wanting to drive their classic car aggressively, to those seeking serious competition. The core objective is to provide a fun experience for Heritage Classic car enthusiasts.

Background: These cars from the 1940’s through the 1970’s are an important part of the history of not only the SCCA, but of the American automotive scene and are worthy of being a part of the SCCA today so this history is not forgotten. The Heritage Classic class is intended to encourage the use and enjoyment of these cars by their owners and other event attendees. As such, the rules represent a level of car preparation that reflects the halcyon competitive days of these cars ‐ the mid‐1970s. This rule set time frame has been purposely selected to attract Production cars and Sedans of this era, as currently no other national organization offers an opportunity for these cars to compete in this configuration as typically the rules are either limited to 1972 and earlier versions OR these heritage vehicles must compete against more modern technology vehicles.

Invitation: SCCA Regions are encouraged to offer the Heritage Classic class as a way to entice avid enthusiasts who still have, or wish to build, race prepared cars of this era to bring their cars to your autocross site. This will provide an opportunity for members of the SCCA, auto enthusiasts, and the general public to enjoy watching and/or driving these foundational cars and join the fun at your SCCA Solo® events!
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post Mar 22 2015, 08:45 AM
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Very interesting. Thanks for sharing, Garold.
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post Mar 22 2015, 09:04 AM
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Maybe my car will be competitive again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Mar 22 2015, 09:39 AM
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Hummm.....
When the National Tour came to the PNW every year, we would wait to see where the most competiton was at in XP or E-Mod.....then enter in the most competitive class.

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post Mar 23 2015, 06:30 AM
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I was looking into this. Looks like big bore or stroker cranks are out.
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post Mar 23 2015, 09:09 AM
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right this is after most of us have modded the snot out of the poor old 914 to play in Prepared of mod classes. Now we still can't play because ............ stockish 914's are getting rare.
Ah screw it. I am getting another shifter kart.
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QUOTE(Joe Ricard @ Mar 23 2015, 10:09 AM) *

right this is after most of us have modded the snot out of the poor old 914 to play in Prepared of mod classes. Now we still can't play because ............ stockish 914's are getting rare.
Ah screw it. I am getting another shifter kart.



A stock motor wouldn't be competitive in this class. You would have to modify the crap out of a stock displacement with an overbore. Camshaft, compression, and induction are unlimited if I recall correctly. I think there were some camshaft and head porting limitations in L2 prep.
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post Mar 24 2015, 07:53 PM
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post Mar 25 2015, 09:43 AM
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The appendix doesn't list the 2.0L, only the 1.7 & 1.8. Also, looks like maximum carb size is 40. Otherwise, the rules for Heritage Classic Prepared mimic D Prepared pretty close. I'm going to email Howard to see why the 2.0L was excluded.
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post Mar 30 2015, 10:48 AM
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I've lobbied for 2.0L inclusion into this class. In addition to the smaller carbs, the maximum wheel width of 8" will define these cars from D Prepared. Still, it would not a huge hurdle to de-prep for Heritage Classic.
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Reno SCCA has had a vintage class for years. Most of the locals run newish cars. There are a half dozen or so of what I would call Vintage Classic cars. I have run my 240z against them and done well, I suspect the 914 would do better as the suspension is much more highly developed.
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post Jan 11 2016, 09:22 AM
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Here's version 2 of the proposed rules set for SCCA Solo Heritage Classic...

HERITAGE CLASSIC

Rationale: The purpose of Heritage Classic (HC) is to enable enthusiasts of sports cars, coupes, and sedans from the early years of the SCCA to participate at SCCA Solo events with cars of similar technology. This participation can range from those just wanting to drive these cars in a competition setting, to those wanting to drive their classic car aggressively for a trophy position. The core objective is to provide a fun experience at the local level for Heritage Classic car enthusiasts through SCCA Regions offering this opportunity using a common set of rules.
Background: These cars from the 1940s through the early 1970s are an important part of the history of not only the SCCA, but of the American automotive scene and are worthy of being a part of the SCCA today so this history is not forgotten. The Heritage Classic category is intended to encourage the use and enjoyment of these cars by their owners and other event attendees.
Eligible Vehicles: Vehicle must be from model year 1974 or older and not produced by a United States based manufacturer. Models newer than 1974, but of the same generation as the 1974 model, are allowed. EXAMPLE: a 1978 MGB would be eligible. Vehicle must pass the mandatory safety inspection (tech) and be in compliance with Section 3, of the current SCCA® National Solo® Rules
Classes: There are two classes; Heritage Classic Street (HCS) and Heritage Classic Race (HCR). HCS is for street legal vehicles to compete on street tires. HCR is for race prepared vehicles to compete on any tires. Additional safety requirements will apply to HCR.

Heritage Classic Street (HCS)
General Information
• Vehicle must be considered “street legal” with normal road touring equipment (lights, wipers, etc.) and capable of being licensed for normal road use in the United States.
• YET to be DONE: research Section 13 of the Solo Rules to determine what allowances could be condensed into simpler/shorter rule language in order to avoid issues later on small items.

Body Allowances
• Body panels may be replaced with an OE equivalent and fenders may be flared.
• Interior panels (door panels, kick panels, etc.) and headliner may be replaced with an OE equivalent and must cover any opening(s) the original panel(s) concealed.
• Dash may be modified to accommodate alternate or additional gauges and switches, but must be complete and cover the original area.
• Front splitter, air dam, and/or spoiler may be added below the bumper, but must not extend past the perimeter of the body.

Wheel and Tire Allowances
• Any metallic wheels are allowed. Wheel width is limited to a maximum of 8”.
• Any DOT‐approved tires with a UTQG Treadwear Grade of 200 or higher are permitted. Tires must also meet other requirements in Section 13.3 of the Solo rules.

Body Electrical System Allowances
• Components and wiring are unrestricted.

Brake System Allowances
• Components, lines and hoses are unrestricted except that rotors and drums must remain in original position (outboard vs. inboard) and be of ferrous metal.

Suspension and Steering Allowances
• Alternate springs are allowed, but must be of the same type as OE and attach at original locations.
• Lever shock absorbers may be modified or replaced with tube shocks unless they also serve as suspension component such as a control arm (Example; front shocks on an MGB).
• Alternate bushings may be used in original location.

Engine and Drive Train Allowances
• Engine may be updated to any available from the manufacturer for that model through its generations. EXAMPLE: a 1275 cc engine from a late model Sprite/Midget may be used in a Bugeye Sprite, however, a Spitfire or MGB motor would NOT be allowed
• Engine must be externally stock appearing.
• Engine internals are free. Intake system must be same type as OE (fuel injection or carbs) Any carb or intake manifold maybe used. Any fuel injection system can be used. Modern electronic ignitions are allowed, provided they are timed by the distributor. (No crank fire ignition)
• Rocker arms must remain stock ratio. Aftermarket roller or ratio rockers are not allowed.
• Exhaust manifold and exhaust system may be replaced with alternate components
• Original drivetrain layout must be preserved.


Heritage Classic Race (HCR)
General Information
• Unless authorized in the HCS rules above or by the allowances below for HCR, the vehicle must be
unmodified from original configuration.

Body and Chassis Allowances
• All interior trim, dash boards, gauges, floor covering, carpet, upholstery panels, and similar non‐performance comfort or convenience items may be removed or replaced.
• All windows may be replaced with polycarbonate material. Polycarbonate windshields must have a
minimum thickness of 0.125”. All window channels and window winding mechanisms may be
removed. Windshield wipers and washers may be removed.
• On open cars windshields and windshield frames may be removed. On closed cars all side windows may
be removed.
• Headlights, mirrors, exterior lights and trim, grills and bumpers may be removed.
• Driver’s seat may be replaced or relocated within 12” of the stock location, other seats may be removed.
• Body must maintain recognizable external features of the manufacturer’s make and model.
• Chassis, frame, or subframe may be reinforced or notched.
• Inner fender panels and trunk floors may be removed.
• Fuel tank/cell may be modified, replaced or relocated and must be separated from the driver/passengers as originally manufactured or by a metal panel/bulkhead.
• Fuel must not vent into the driver/passenger compartment directly or indirectly.
• Rear spoiler may be added, but may extend no more than 8” from the original body or past the perimeter of the body. No rear wings may be added except OE or equivalent.
• All open cars on racing slicks will at a minimum be required to have a roll bar installed meeting the requirements of Appendix C of the Solo Rules. GCR legal roll cages are allowed.

Wheel and Tire Allowances
• Wheel width is limited to a maximum of 8”. (Unnecessary if HCS wheels are similarly restricted.)
• Non DOT approved tires are allowed.

Suspension and Steering Allowances
• Components and method of attachment are unrestricted.

Brake System Allowances
• Components, lines and hoses are unrestricted except that rotors and drums must remain in original position (outboard vs. inboard) and be of ferrous metal. (Unnecessary if HCS brakes are similarly restricted.)



Engine Allowances
• Same engine rules as HCS, except for the following.
• Engines must be of the original type; size and design as originally provided by the manufacturer and mounts must remain in the correct location. Blocks and heads must be of the same material and design as provided by the manufacturer. Modern aftermarket blocks and heads are prohibited unless they are identical (material and design) to the originals.
• The standard stroke must be retained.
• The block may be rebored no more than 0.0472” (1.2 mm) over standard.  The resultant displacement
increase shall not be included in the weight calculation for the car.
• Aftermarket roller or ratio rockers are allowed.
• Cooling system components may be modified or replaced.
• Emission control components and systems may be removed.
• Alternators/generators may be modified or removed.
• Battery may be modified or relocated.
• Any ignition system may be used.
• Wet sump may not be converted to dry sump. Any accumulator (Accusump) may be used.

Drive Train Allowances
• Same rules as HCS, except for the following.
• Transmission/transaxle, mounts, clutch and clutch housing, driveshaft(s), joints, rear axle and final
drives may be modified or replaced.

Minimum Weights
Engine displacement of 900-1050 cc: 1.35 lbs/cc
Engine displacement of 1051-1450 cc: 1.20 lbs/cc
Engine displacement of 1451-1900 cc: 1.05 lbs/cc
Engine displacement of 1901 cc and up: 1.00 lbs/cc

Weight Adjustments (lbs):
Front wheel drive: -50

NOTE: These weight formulas are subject to revision within or at the conclusion of each year.

Additional Vehicles
A GCR-legal Formula Vee is eligible to compete in the Heritage Classic Race (HCR) class.

Excluded Vehicles
The following Makes/Models are not eligible to compete in the Heritage Classic Race (HCR) class:


Elva
Courier all
Lotus
Elan all
Europa all
Super 7 all
Turner
950S and 1500
TVR
1800
V8
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post Jan 11 2016, 01:03 PM
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Great. Looks like I will be moving over HCR for 2016.
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post Jan 13 2016, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE(Garold Shaffer @ Jan 11 2016, 01:03 PM) *

Great. Looks like I will be moving over HCR for 2016.


V2 does look better. The issues with my car will be wheel width (10" rears), weight and displacement. DP allows 10% bore increase in 4-valve per cylinder cars and it would have been nice to carry that over to HCR. I'm really liking my 2056 and not wanting to do another build to make class.
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post Feb 11 2016, 08:43 AM
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Update -

The Dixie Region SCCA has activated HC for the Dixie Championship Tour with the understanding that there's a minimum of three entries for trophies.

Brian Hamer at the SCCA basically said that if you don't see HC (or HCS or HCR later) available at registration, go to the event officials and make a request. Which is exactly what I did with the Dixie Region.

I've had several conversations with Craig Way who has been instrumental in forming these classes. The version 2 rules set which stipulates HC Street and HC Race has not been accepted at this time. I'll participate in HC with my current set-up and let other participants know of my non-compliance. If they have issues, I'll move to XP for that event. Once version 2 rules are instituted, I'll be able make the changes needed to be compliant. It just takes some time and $$$.
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post Feb 17 2016, 04:42 PM
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Looks like HCR may be the place for my car should I ever manage to breathe life back into it! Very encouraging!

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Actually, HCS seems the best playground. SP/ST suspension, Prod motor internals with SP/ST like induction.

The 8" wheel width on 200 rated tires means the high power cars won't be able to put it down. Seems a good fit for the teener!

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QUOTE(jhadler @ Feb 17 2016, 02:42 PM) *

Looks like HCR may be the place for my car should I ever manage to breathe life back into it! Very encouraging!

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It's a done deal. HCS and HCR rules set are official (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)

Heritage Classic SCCA Solo rules 2016
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post Feb 19 2016, 12:58 PM
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So I talked to Howard this morning, and the class was modeled a lot in the same way CAMS was. The engine allowance is the one that looked like a slippery slope. Engine must look original, but can have any intake or exhaust (no turbos). So the way I read it, I can build a bored out, big valve, high compressing monster with ITB fuel injection, as long as I don't modify the cooling tins or the external case/heads. That being said, there is a definite limit to what kind of motor is reasonable in the class, given the 8" max wheel width and 200 treadwear minimum.... How much power can one use on 225 width 200 UTOG tires? Probably not too terribly much.

So the question I pose here is... What would an appropriate motor be given the tire/wheel restrictions?

Thoughts? Ideas?

I imagine more than a mildly warmed over 2056, but how much more?

As far I read the rules, a 914 built to SP allowances with an HCS motor would be spectacular. And with 225 width 200 UTOG tires, less risk of tearing the rear suspension mounts...

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