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> Clutch Failure, pedal to the floor!
mikedsilva
post Apr 19 2015, 01:29 AM
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QUOTE(euro911 @ Apr 19 2015, 04:28 PM) *

What's the part # on the lever? Looks like it's not long enough (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)


I think you are right...
Is my pivot ball in the same position as everyone elses? If it could be moved in closer, it would fix my problem...

Part number on my fork is
9011167111r (hard to read - the 6 could be something else)

I cleaned up the bits and reassembled.. Here's what it looks like...
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post Apr 19 2015, 01:29 AM
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QUOTE(euro911 @ Apr 19 2015, 04:28 PM) *

What's the part # on the lever? Looks like it's not long enough (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)


I think you are right...
Is my pivot ball in the same position as everyone elses? If it could be moved in closer, it would fix my problem...

Part number on my fork is
9011167111r (hard to read - the 6 could be something else)

I cleaned up the bits and reassembled.. Here's what it looks like...
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post Apr 19 2015, 01:59 AM
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googling that part number bring up NOTHING....
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post Apr 19 2015, 05:22 AM
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the PET say the part # should be 90111671200.
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post Apr 19 2015, 05:32 AM
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Soooooo.... What's the story?

New clutch? New Trans? Bought used? I think we all agree that fork isn't correct, but how did it get there?
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post Apr 19 2015, 05:47 AM
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Put out a Wtb in classifies..
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post Apr 19 2015, 06:10 AM
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I've got a clutch fork sitting around in a box someplace here.
Shoot me a pm if you still need one.
BTW it looks like something was rubbing on your clutch fork. It could've caused it to be knocked off the bearing unless it was caused after it came off?
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post Apr 19 2015, 07:56 AM
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How about this: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/3245220-post1.html

My fork reads: 9011167120R, 1970, 1.7
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post Apr 19 2015, 09:55 AM
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Many of us have placed a washer under the ball stud to change the fulcrum point, this works well but there are few threads left.

Does anyone have a measurement of the ball and threads? There are thousands of ball studs on the market. I wonder if there is a good aftermarket choice with longer threads.
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post Apr 19 2015, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE(Tbrown4x4 @ Apr 19 2015, 09:32 PM) *

Soooooo.... What's the story?

New clutch? New Trans? Bought used? I think we all agree that fork isn't correct, but how did it get there?


I have only had the car a month or so. The previous owner had it 5 years and had all the work done.
Apparently he had a new clutch kit installed by his local shop (different State to where I live).
Unfortunately, I am on my own... he didn't know much about mechanicals and I doubt he wants to know about the issues now!
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post Apr 19 2015, 03:53 PM
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Obtain the proper clutch fork and you'll be golden.....don't know what the one you have goes in, but it is clearly the wrong one. You need #90111671200 maybe go ahead and get the 2 plastic guides if yours were buggered up.
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post Apr 19 2015, 07:10 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Definitely not the right fork, or it's at minimum, not engaging correctly.

Interesting in your pictures too - it looks like it was rubbing on the pressure plate as well - see the big gouge in the fork? I bet it was barely engaging before and the pressure plate spinning eventually knocked it off completely. OR vice versa: it came off and then started rubbing on the pressure plate.
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post Apr 19 2015, 10:01 PM
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I borrowed a fork from a friend for comparison.. they looked almost identical...
Apart from the location of the ball pivot socket..

On my fork, it is very close to the edge of the fork.
On my friends fork, it is a few mm inset.
That would have to account for some of the difference...
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post Apr 19 2015, 10:56 PM
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In doing a little more research, found a guy on ebay selling one from a '73 with part# 901.116.712.00 (as Jerry stated) ebay link

Looks just like the one your friend has. Did you test fit it yet?
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post Apr 20 2015, 12:32 AM
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QUOTE(euro911 @ Apr 20 2015, 02:56 PM) *

In doing a little more research, found a guy on ebay selling one from a '73 with part# 901.116.712.00 (as Jerry stated) ebay link

Looks just like the one your friend has. Did you test fit it yet?


Not yet.. I'm still at work! it's Monday afternoon here...
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post Apr 20 2015, 01:52 PM
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Test fit shows perfect fitment!


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While I had the gearbox off, a friend loaned me his flywheel lock tool.. so I figured I should check out the slight oil weep.. I've heard of gallery plugs leaking but I think in my case, it is the rear oil seal....

Notice the oil dribbling out...
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After a quick clean with brake cleaner...
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I can see oil at the bottom of the seal... does that mean it's toast?
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I've ordered a new seal, but somehow, I think there is more I should be doing while in here...
Does my clutch look OK?
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post Apr 20 2015, 01:58 PM
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If the clutch fork issue has been solved, you won't need this attachment. Otherwise, I thought it might be helpful. Is the retaining bracket, item number 6, complete and in place?


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post Apr 20 2015, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(maf914 @ Apr 21 2015, 05:58 AM) *

If the clutch fork issue has been solved, you won't need this attachment. Otherwise, I thought it might be helpful. Is the retaining bracket, item number 6, complete and in place?

HI, thanks for posting... yes it is in place.
Whilst I haven't mounted the trans back in the car, I believe it should now work properly.
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Looks like you have the correct lever now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

If you can obtain a new rear main seal fairly quick, I'd replace it while you have the opportunity. I'd suggest a Victor Reinz seal if possible.

I'll also recommend that you get a new flywheel O-ring and a new lock plate (both are relatively inexpensive parts).
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QUOTE(euro911 @ Apr 21 2015, 09:05 AM) *

Looks like you have the correct lever now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

If you can obtain a new rear main seal fairly quick, I'd replace it while you have the opportunity. I'd suggest a Victor Reinz seal if possible.

I'll also recommend that you get a new flywheel O-ring and a new lock plate (both are relatively inexpensive parts).


Hi
the "lock plate".. is that just the flimsy metal washer that goes between the flywheel bolts and the flywheel itself?
Also, what is the purpose of the felt washer...
When i removed my flywheel last night, I am certain there was no felt washer..
And the needle-roller bearing looked pretty dry too...
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