replacing my 6 rear trunk floor pan, how many digits does your six stamp # have? |
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replacing my 6 rear trunk floor pan, how many digits does your six stamp # have? |
altitude411 |
Apr 28 2015, 09:32 PM
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I drove my 6 into a tree Group: Members Posts: 1,306 Joined: 21-September 14 From: montana Member No.: 17,932 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Question for you guys that have replaced your rear trunk floor pan. What did you do about the chassis stamp number? Looking for ideas.
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Socalandy |
Apr 28 2015, 09:54 PM
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Its got to be Yellow!!! Group: Members Posts: 2,432 Joined: 29-August 09 From: Orange Member No.: 10,742 Region Association: Southern California |
Dont cut it out. Trim the replacment part to fit. My car was missing that whole section so i never had the option.
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altitude411 |
Apr 28 2015, 10:20 PM
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I drove my 6 into a tree Group: Members Posts: 1,306 Joined: 21-September 14 From: montana Member No.: 17,932 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I definitely don't want to cut it out... Just don't want it to look like it's been hacked and I have some rust issues close to the stamp. I know this thread is worthless without pics... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I guess some ideas (reassurance) as to where to cut the original pan?
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altitude411 |
Apr 28 2015, 10:22 PM
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I drove my 6 into a tree Group: Members Posts: 1,306 Joined: 21-September 14 From: montana Member No.: 17,932 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
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altitude411 |
Apr 28 2015, 11:14 PM
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I drove my 6 into a tree Group: Members Posts: 1,306 Joined: 21-September 14 From: montana Member No.: 17,932 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Another question about the stamp #132522 ... I know that the 1 represents (production body) and 3 represents (Karmann 914/6) but the 2 seems odd as it is a '70. Isn't there suppose to be a 0 there to indicate the '70 model year?
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Cairo94507 |
Apr 29 2015, 05:44 PM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,836 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
Someone commented on another thread that their Six transaxle number matches the last four of the trunk numbers. Coincidence? If you have your COA, and it lists your transaxle number, is it consistent with your trunk number? Or if you believe you have the original transaxle still in the car does that match the trunk?
Personally, I would cut that original number out and have it welded into the new replacement panel. I would have pictures of before, during and after to cover the questions. |
altitude411 |
Apr 29 2015, 06:51 PM
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I drove my 6 into a tree Group: Members Posts: 1,306 Joined: 21-September 14 From: montana Member No.: 17,932 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Michael, thanks for your response, I was starting to wonder if everyone forgot to tell (Socal) Andy to put me on the "ignore'' list... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
I have applied for my COA but haven't received it as yet. I'm not expecting too much from what I've read in the transmission COA thread. My transaxle number ( if I'm reading the right number) is 914/11HA0026115 which isn't close to the chassis stamp # in the trunk. The number under my dash is (1302542) but still researching that code to see if it is suppose to be the same as chassis number? I'm thinking along the same line as you about the documenting of the chassis # swap to a new trunk floor pan unless someone has a better suggestion. I bet you are getting anxious to get your '71 back. I appreciate the thread on your car and the pictures Scotty is posting. Looking forward to many more of it when it returns to your driveway! Thanks again, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Anyone else who has suggestions or enlightenment before I (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) |
trojanhorsepower |
Apr 29 2015, 07:07 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 861 Joined: 21-September 03 From: Marion, NC Member No.: 1,179 Region Association: None |
Where is that number stamped on the pan. I want to try and find it on my car (unless it was only stamped on 6's)
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altitude411 |
Apr 29 2015, 07:33 PM
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I drove my 6 into a tree Group: Members Posts: 1,306 Joined: 21-September 14 From: montana Member No.: 17,932 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
#'s in front of the rear trunk latch before the cross brace.
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Cairo94507 |
Apr 29 2015, 08:13 PM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,836 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
My understanding is that the number written on the bottom of the dash should be the same as the number stamped in the rear trunk floor pan.
Recall my car had the rear trunk pan replaced (poorly) so Scotty put a new trunk pan in. He has my dash in storage now and once he pulls it down I am hoping it too has the number written on it. That is the number that should go in my trunk. I have my COA so I can't wait to compare that to the transaxle number listed for my car. I just can't wait to see some primer on the tub at this point. That will be a milestone and then Scotty is planning (long-term) to shoot color the first part of September. I am hoping the car will be back to my by November..... 2015 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
altitude411 |
Apr 29 2015, 09:30 PM
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I drove my 6 into a tree Group: Members Posts: 1,306 Joined: 21-September 14 From: montana Member No.: 17,932 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
He has my dash in storage now and once he pulls it down I am hoping it too has the number written on it. That is the number that should go in my trunk. I know Scotty is a metal magician but how is he going to pull that rabbit out of the hat? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) * maybe I could borrow the dies when he's finished stamping yours? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) Attached thumbnail(s) |
Cairo94507 |
Apr 29 2015, 10:09 PM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,836 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
as comical as that may seem, that might be exactly what we end up doing. There is no fraud as the car is mine, is a real 71 Six and the trunk panel was replaced due to damage. We know (I believe) the correct number from under the dash, and that s what belongs in the trunk. That is our plan at least....
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altitude411 |
Apr 29 2015, 10:25 PM
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I drove my 6 into a tree Group: Members Posts: 1,306 Joined: 21-September 14 From: montana Member No.: 17,932 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I was seriously hoping you were going to say that.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/calvin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) The dies will most likely run a bit more than $14.99
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SirAndy |
Apr 29 2015, 10:53 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,682 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
My understanding is that the number written on the bottom of the dash should be the same as the number stamped in the rear trunk floor pan. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Also, for a full trunk floor replacement, i'd cut out the original number and patch it into the replacement panel. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
altitude411 |
Apr 29 2015, 11:10 PM
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I drove my 6 into a tree Group: Members Posts: 1,306 Joined: 21-September 14 From: montana Member No.: 17,932 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Andy, thanks for dropping in. What's your take on the number stamped in the trunk pan? Can you elaborate on the decoding of the last four digits as to what they represent?
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Stapler |
Apr 29 2015, 11:45 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 25-November 08 From: NV Member No.: 9,787 Region Association: None |
Personally, I wouldn't cut out the stamp unless the rust damage makes it absolutely necessary.
You simply can't win if you do. If one is honest they must tell any future buyer the stamp was: 1. Cut out and welded back in, or 2. Trunk replaced and re-stamped Even if you've a COA and full video documentation of the entire repair including re-stamping or welding the stamp back in, it will raise suspicions. Because, when the money goes up the honesty goes down. My two cents. |
altitude411 |
Apr 30 2015, 12:15 AM
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I drove my 6 into a tree Group: Members Posts: 1,306 Joined: 21-September 14 From: montana Member No.: 17,932 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Stapler, I hear what your saying. I've looked at this for so long I'm going cross eyed. The area outlined in yellow is my concern. I can't cut out this portion of rust as it leaves too narrow of margin next to the stamp. It's not rot but fairly heavily rusted as to not wanting to leave it and as you know rusted metal can't be welded. I don't want to leave a rusted piece into the replacement pan. I just can't see a way to cut the metal around the stamp to weld in the new pan. That's why I'm posting to maybe get a fresh set of eyes and a solution I haven't thought of. So if you see a way as to how to leave the stamp and still get a replacement pan in I would like to hear it.
I know it may seem like a trivial matter to some, and some might say it's just a number but numbers are what make the difference. Just trying to do the best thing I can for this car. Attached image(s) |
Targa70 |
Apr 30 2015, 03:55 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 80 Joined: 22-March 13 From: Virginia Member No.: 15,683 Region Association: None |
Alt411,
I was in the same boat. I needed to replace my trunk but fretted over how to keep/recreate the stamp. I researched stamps and measured the letters, trying to make sure I got the font right. My body man said "Ill just cut it out and weld it in the new floor pan, easy" Well he did, and it looks great. You can not detect a difference. I am pick up my newly painted shell on Saturday and will post a pic of the floor stamp. |
altitude411 |
Apr 30 2015, 07:56 AM
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I drove my 6 into a tree Group: Members Posts: 1,306 Joined: 21-September 14 From: montana Member No.: 17,932 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Thanks Targa70, I look forward to seeing it. A fresh, newly painted tub.... congratulations! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dance.gif)
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altitude411 |
May 4 2015, 07:09 PM
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I drove my 6 into a tree Group: Members Posts: 1,306 Joined: 21-September 14 From: montana Member No.: 17,932 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Well I'm still trying to verify my rear trunk stamp #.... I just got a reply from
db9146 (Thanks again D) whose sixes serial # is somewhat close to mine and he shows 7 digits on the rear trunk stamp #. I only have six digits in my stamp #. It seems to be missing the model year (0) which should be the third number in the series. My question to those with a '70 six.... Can you post here your trunk stamp # so I can verify this damn thing please. Does anyone else have a six digit number instead of seven digits? My trunk floor pan looks to be original as all spot welds look authentic as does the rust... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) Maybe the beer was flowing on a Friday afternoon and the dude who stamped my trunk screwed up? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Under dash # Rear trunk stamp # |
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