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djporsche
post May 5 2015, 01:20 PM
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The BMW 320i calipers are leaking pretty bad so I bought some early 914 calipers from the classifieds, the red ones I'm sure y'all have seen them. Hoping to have them here soon.

It has 195 65 15 that rub in the rear. The rims are 5 1/2. Is it because it's a early 70? I don't remember rubbing in my other 914's which were all later models. I have a good set of 165's i might through on. My plan is to autocross it but i want to get the structural repairs done first. Then i'll hunt for a nice set of tires.
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post May 5 2015, 02:36 PM
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Rear control arm maybe out of alignment or bushings may have collapsed in it. Also early cars (up-72) have full internal lips on wheel wells . 73-on has the upper part of lip removed.
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post May 5 2015, 03:01 PM
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I'll check the bushings. Thanks

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post May 5 2015, 07:35 PM
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I drove that car and tuned the carbs on it about a year ago! LOTS of power in the mid-range!

It was a pretty good looking car then too! Congrats!

I'd dive deeper into that rust though. It looked pretty terminal when I was crawling around under it.
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post May 5 2015, 07:59 PM
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were the tires rubbing then?
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post May 5 2015, 08:19 PM
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Not that I recall, I only took it for a short spin though to prove out the carbs.
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post May 6 2015, 09:19 AM
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QUOTE(djporsche @ May 5 2015, 02:01 PM) *

I'll check the bushings. Thanks


That's unusual--generally the tires will rub on the outer fender, not the inner one! I would say that the wheels are too far in, but I thought your pics showed real 914 wheels and those don't seem to have this problem?

I would double-check the bushings and try to make sure the trailing arms are straight. Also make sure you don't have a ludicrous amount of negative camber.

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post May 6 2015, 09:37 AM
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QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ May 6 2015, 09:19 AM) *

QUOTE(djporsche @ May 5 2015, 02:01 PM) *

I'll check the bushings. Thanks


That's unusual--generally the tires will rub on the outer fender, not the inner one! I would say that the wheels are too far in, but I thought your pics showed real 914 wheels and those don't seem to have this problem?

I would double-check the bushings and try to make sure the trailing arms are straight. Also make sure you don't have a ludicrous amount of negative camber.

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My car has 205/50 R15s and stock 2L Fuchs and the rears rub on the inside.
I added 3/8" Spacers to avoid that.
And it is set to max camber (no shims).
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post May 6 2015, 10:13 AM
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I jacked it up and with a big screw driver i can move the rear arm about 1/4" I'm sure it moves more with all the weight of the car when it's sitting on the ground. I'm ordering new bushings all around.
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post May 6 2015, 04:33 PM
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This some kind of new sleeve i don't know about?

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post May 6 2015, 06:41 PM
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QUOTE(djporsche @ May 6 2015, 04:33 PM) *

This some kind of new sleeve i don't know about?

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It should be there. It's normally pressed into the bearing. I thought the same thing too.
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post May 6 2015, 07:39 PM
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can i still install the sleeve to help get rid of the wobble?

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post May 6 2015, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE(djporsche @ May 6 2015, 07:39 PM) *

can i still install the sleeve to help get rid of the wobble?

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I'm not really sure were that goes. As far as I know the bushing is pressed into the bearing. There should only be a spacer and a lock ring between the bushing and the bearing.
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post May 6 2015, 09:57 PM
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Sleeve is not for your car. Early cars have unique parts. Very early steering columns shared parts with VW Type 3. Pull the PET down from Porsche and look at the parts diagram.
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post May 6 2015, 11:03 PM
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That would explain a lot. I'm missing the lock ring and spacer. Whats the best way to get rid of the wobble? Replace bearing? god i hope not.
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post May 7 2015, 12:47 AM
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i looked at the PET and It doesn't show this long spacer i have. It also doesn't show the sleeve for the spring. Just a spring that im missing. is the missing spring my issue? or should i try this.

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post May 7 2015, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(djporsche @ May 5 2015, 02:01 PM) *

I'll check the bushings. Thanks

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Seeing as that is on the passenger side (unless the picture is flipped) I am inclined to wonder about rust damage to the swingarm mounting points being the reason for the wheel moving around. Have you looked at that? Do both rear tires rub in the same way?

Edit: That's the drivers side isn't it? So less likely to be rusted, but still.....
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post May 7 2015, 12:49 PM
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driver side. Pass side is ok, no rubbing. the door even shuts nice. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post May 7 2015, 01:31 PM
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QUOTE(djporsche @ May 7 2015, 12:47 AM) *

i looked at the PET and It doesn't show this long spacer i have. It also doesn't show the sleeve for the spring. Just a spring that im missing. is the missing spring my issue? or should i try this.

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Nope. You need to find the spacer and lock ring. # 21 & 22 in the picture.

I have a 71 column I could sell you if interested.

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post May 7 2015, 02:41 PM
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