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All-Metal Body Filler, Cure Time |
Allan |
Feb 19 2005, 05:26 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
I tried my first attempt at using All-Metal body fille to smooth out some rough surfaces. The instructions say to mix a certain amount of activator an apply. Set up time before sanding it says is 20-30 minutes. It's been 2 hours and the stuff is barely starting to thicken. I may have not added enough activator. Will it still cure if I leave it alone for say 24 hours?
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914GT |
Feb 19 2005, 05:42 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,100 Joined: 11-October 04 From: Tucson Member No.: 2,923 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Either you didn't add enough hardener or it's too cold. The other possibility is the stuff is old.
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watsonrx13 |
Feb 19 2005, 05:49 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,734 Joined: 18-February 03 From: Plant City, FL Member No.: 312 Region Association: South East States |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) I always add a little extra on the activator, then let it dry overnight. If you add too much activator, then it will solidify quickly and it will be difficult the spread evenly. Just mix another batch, but with less activator. |
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rick 918-S |
Feb 19 2005, 05:53 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,464 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
scrape it off and start over. Don't trust it.
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Allan |
Feb 19 2005, 05:59 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
Unfortunatley I will have to give another 16 hours to cure as it is back at the office and I just got home. I mean if given enough time, this stuff will cure wont it?
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TheCabinetmaker |
Feb 19 2005, 06:03 PM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,300 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
Follow Ricks advice, even if it gets hard after 24 hours.
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Allan |
Feb 19 2005, 06:05 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
If I do that. how the heck do you scrape it off? This stuff ends up with the same consistency as lead.
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Allan |
Feb 19 2005, 09:51 PM
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914GT |
Feb 19 2005, 09:54 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,100 Joined: 11-October 04 From: Tucson Member No.: 2,923 Region Association: Southwest Region |
So is it hard yet? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif)
If you have to take it off a heat gun will help. |
Allan |
Feb 20 2005, 09:34 AM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
I don't know. I be heading over to the office in an hour or so to find out.
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Allan |
Feb 20 2005, 12:35 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
Well shit! Even after 24 hours the stuff still didn't harden well. Got it all off though. Here I go again. |
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TravisNeff |
Feb 21 2005, 10:52 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Something is funny, either not enough activator or something. did just like the instructions said and then hit it with a board hand sander after 30 minutes, it was SOLID!
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balljoint |
Feb 21 2005, 11:12 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,000 Joined: 6-April 04 Member No.: 1,897 Region Association: None |
Check for a date code imprinted on the "product". If it still doesn't work you can verify with the manufacturer that your retailer is selling old stock. That will get you a replacement and a "sincere" apology. The mistake I usually make is adding too much hardener, gotta work fast.
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davep |
Feb 21 2005, 11:37 AM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,144 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
We used to use Devcon aluminum filled epoxy by the ton (literally). We had the local supplier bring it in as needed so it didn't get 'old'. It was amazing how much better the fresh material was compared to 'old' material that was still well within it's freshness date. I think storage conditions are important. Mix the base material well before adding the activator. Mix well again before using. Oh, we used to keep the material in a warm-box set for about 100ºF for a few hours before mixing. I would expect the body-filler to act much the same way. Don't mix more than you can use in ten minutes. The clock starts ticking as soon as the activator is added, not when you have finished mixing. You have to plan to work fast. Keep the tools as clean as possible.
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Brando |
Feb 21 2005, 11:43 AM
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BUY MY SPARE KIDNEY!!! Group: Members Posts: 3,935 Joined: 29-August 04 From: Santa Ana, CA Member No.: 2,648 Region Association: Southern California |
is this metal filler the alternative to leading?
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TravisNeff |
Feb 21 2005, 11:58 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Yep, alternative to lead, alternative to fiberglass type fillers. It's just that, filler.
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Lou W |
Feb 21 2005, 01:03 PM
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"Here Kitty Kitty" my ass...... Group: Members Posts: 4,109 Joined: 9-May 04 From: Roseburg, OR. Member No.: 2,039 Region Association: Spain |
Well if no one else is gonna...
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redshift |
Feb 21 2005, 01:20 PM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
I recently started using a 5 minute alternative to the West epoxy I had been using.
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DJsRepS |
Mar 15 2005, 06:16 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 431 Joined: 4-November 04 From: Sarasota Florida Member No.: 3,060 |
After all that I would try a test batch on cardboard or sumtin.
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