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T4 engines..my options:, What can I do? |
914ghost |
Feb 20 2005, 12:33 AM
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BOB Group: Members Posts: 406 Joined: 25-November 03 From: Wenatchee Washington Member No.: 1,387 |
Okay, my nice running 912 engine ate the crankshaft last week.
Much of the engine, at least the expensive stuff, is toast. I figure I may be able to squeeze enough cash out of the remains to start a decent type4 upgrade. First the questions... 1. If I had a Bus / Vanagon 2.0 shortblock, can I put 1.8 914 heads on it and be okay? Of course that combo would get a webcam and solid lifters. 2. If I had a 2.0 914 longblock, can I put 1.7/1.8 VW 411 heater boxes on those 914 heads? I have the carbs, I have access to a 411 engine with all the stuff...so I'll need the 3-5 trans gears too I think to make it decent. Whatch'a think? TIA Bob O |
McMark |
Feb 20 2005, 12:38 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
1. Yes, the 1.8 heads bolt on.
2. Yes. The 411 boxes work really well. The 411 engine will bolt up as well if you have a full engine. This conversion is really easy. Let me know if you have any questions, been down this road before. |
Bleyseng |
Feb 20 2005, 07:10 AM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
If you can use a 2.0L 914 (95hp) engine as the bus motors are all 68hp low compression slugs. Not all bus motors are hydro, my 76 Westy is solid lifter.
A Raby cam is a better cam as he has seveal split duration jobbies that really wake up the engine. Longer exhaust duration helps the crappy exhaust design on a Type 4. If you are doing the upright fan Jake has a nice conv fan too that is the way to go. It is a proven design cools the engine evenly unlike the other products out there. With dual carbs and a cam change you can get into the 115hp range. Geoff |
DJsRepS |
Mar 15 2005, 06:28 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 431 Joined: 4-November 04 From: Sarasota Florida Member No.: 3,060 |
Send whats left to JAKE with green backs. He will make your wheels spin.
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Tom Perso |
Mar 15 2005, 06:32 AM
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Crazy from the Cold... Group: Members Posts: 647 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Kalamazoo, MI Member No.: 1,003 |
My friend did a T4 conversion for his 69 912. The 356 motor was in good shape, he just wanted to pull it and keep it stock and complete. The conversion is easily reversible back to stock
(IMG:http://www.qtm.net/~persot/912/complete_2056.jpg) (IMG:http://www.qtm.net/~persot/912/exhaust2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.qtm.net/~persot/912/supportbar.jpg) (IMG:http://www.qtm.net/~persot/912/912_3.jpg) Later, Tom |
Bleyseng |
Mar 15 2005, 08:45 AM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Where is the pics of the tranny gear swap out???? I thought you were doing that this weekend..... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
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Jake Raby |
Mar 15 2005, 10:53 AM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
I have a ton of 912 enthusiast using the DTM to do the conversion simply and correctly. I even have the waterjet cut engine tin to seal the bay up just like factory in the huge 912 engine bay.
The conversion can also be done with the stock TIV cooling and its VERY EASY if you have tin from a 912E.... BUT that tin will cost you more than a DTM unless you get real lucky. The TIv is the only way to go with a 912, use a 914 flywheel and pressure plate and it all bolts up to the 901 perfectly. You can build two 120HP TIV engines for what it cost to rebuild one STOCK 912 engine. The torque difference is phenomenol. |
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