914-6 Sportomatic for sale, Sportomatic |
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914-6 Sportomatic for sale, Sportomatic |
thieuster |
May 24 2015, 02:39 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 447 Joined: 31-January 15 From: 275 mls NW from Stuttgart. Member No.: 18,384 Region Association: Europe |
PM sent
Menno |
raceforfun |
May 24 2015, 02:46 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: 24-May 15 From: Europe Member No.: 18,754 Region Association: None |
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Dave_Darling |
May 24 2015, 04:49 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Wow! And a '71 to boot. Can't be but a couple of those around. I think there were 21 of them, and only 4 1970 Sportos. (I could have that backwards, but I think I don't.) I saw a silver Sporto here in the Bay Area at a swap meet in the early 1990s. No idea what happened to it after that, though. --DD |
raceforfun |
May 25 2015, 01:33 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: 24-May 15 From: Europe Member No.: 18,754 Region Association: None |
CAR IS STILL AVAILABLE!
more Pictures will come today on the "sporttronic" details and also the chassi nr sign so people can confirm its the specific car :-) PM for serious inquires Best regards, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
raceforfun |
May 25 2015, 09:48 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: 24-May 15 From: Europe Member No.: 18,754 Region Association: None |
Hello everyone!
got the car to the garage now! some pictures for you guys on the original service book, Chassi number and a very intresting letter from Porsche about the Sportmatic cars in german from 1982 and the car with engine/gearbox on the trailer. Best regards, Attached thumbnail(s) |
raceforfun |
May 25 2015, 09:49 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: 24-May 15 From: Europe Member No.: 18,754 Region Association: None |
Chassi Nr
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raceforfun |
May 25 2015, 09:50 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: 24-May 15 From: Europe Member No.: 18,754 Region Association: None |
Letter from Porsche from 1982
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raceforfun |
May 25 2015, 09:50 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: 24-May 15 From: Europe Member No.: 18,754 Region Association: None |
last picture of letter from Porsche
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thieuster |
May 25 2015, 10:14 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 447 Joined: 31-January 15 From: 275 mls NW from Stuttgart. Member No.: 18,384 Region Association: Europe |
Oh that's interesting info! If one of you wants to have the letter translated, just let me know!
Menno |
raceforfun |
May 25 2015, 10:20 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: 24-May 15 From: Europe Member No.: 18,754 Region Association: None |
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914bub |
May 25 2015, 10:45 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 433 Joined: 16-August 13 From: Modesto CA. Member No.: 16,260 Region Association: None |
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Dave_Darling |
May 25 2015, 10:50 AM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Oh that's interesting info! If one of you wants to have the letter translated, just let me know! Yes, please! Each one appears to contradict other information we have on the number of Sportos built, and they even contradict each other if I am reading them correctly. --DD |
Gustl |
May 25 2015, 11:49 AM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,513 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
interesting details:
- the VIN tag is not in the correct place - the engine number is for US market - the letter from Porsche doesn't say anything about a car delivered to Sweden, while other European countries like Swizerland, France and Austria are listed ... US market cars are not listed (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
raceforfun |
May 25 2015, 12:27 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: 24-May 15 From: Europe Member No.: 18,754 Region Association: None |
interesting details: - the VIN tag is not in the correct place - the engine number is for US market - the letter from Porsche doesn't say anything about a car delivered to Sweden, while other European countries like Swizerland, France and Austria are listed ... US market cars are not listed (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) The car was delivered new in Sweden and was in traffic 1971-03-25 for the first time in Sweden. I have the paperwork for it, have just not posted it. Regards, |
thieuster |
May 25 2015, 12:42 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 447 Joined: 31-January 15 From: 275 mls NW from Stuttgart. Member No.: 18,384 Region Association: Europe |
Wolfgang's German is off course better than mine. He's from German speaking Austria and I am from The Netherlands. Although only one country to the left, our languages are quite different. Remember, I'm not a native speaker in English or German. So with my School German into School English... here we go!
Dear Mr Rheindorf, We congratualate you with the aquisition of a rare product of our brand like this 914/6 with the Sportmatic gear. This car wasn't built as a series. Therefore was it hard for us to figure out how many were produced. After Research were able to retrieve from the production planning data that there are 22 engines built with the Sportmatic gear. Engine-wise (this engine has special control add-ons for the semi-automatic gear), there are 19 built with European specs and 4 with the 'clean exhaust' [my interpretation] for the USA. There was not much to find in the car production data about the fact how many of these machines [Aggregate] were installed in the 914/6 or in the Special Versions of the 911 T. (The 911 model already had the 2.2 lt. engine during that period 1970/71). Only after we checked the Rolodex [best translation of 'Kartei' I think] of the Customer Service, dear Mr Reindorf, we were able to answer your question without hesitation. We were even surprised ourselves to find out that back then, these 914/6 were built! The collegues that were part of the project only had very vague memories about the few Sportmatic cars. If we would have been unable to retrieve the correct number, we would have relied on the estimates the colleagues and then we would have said that only 3 or 4 cars were built. But things were different. So, cars built: 3 cars for das Werk [=The Company] (for testing and and other trials) 2 cars for the Porsche family (one car went straight to Austria) 3 cars to the Glöckler company in Frankfurt 1 car went to the Hahn company in Stuttgart (this is your car, dear Mr Rheindorf) 2 cars were received by our agent Sonauto in France 1 car went to AMAG in Switzerland 2 cars landed in Hamburg with the Raffay company and 2 cars were sold by the Schulz company in Lintorf near Düsseldorf all together 16 cars. The were built between 9/1970 and 6/1971. We hope that this information will help you further, Kind Regards, So, in total, 23 engines were built (19 EU + 4 US), 16 cars were sold/given away. I hope tha this translation helps - I am sure that Wolfgang will correct my translation when he sees reason to do so! Menno |
raceforfun |
May 25 2015, 12:53 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: 24-May 15 From: Europe Member No.: 18,754 Region Association: None |
Wolfgang's German is off course better than mine. He's from German speaking Austria and I am from The Netherlands. Although only one country to the left, our languages are quite different. So with my School German into School English... here we go! Dear Mr Rheindorf, We congratualate you with the aquisition of a rare product of our brand like this 914/6 with the Sportmatic gear. This car wasn't built as a series. Therefore was it hard for us to figure out how many were produced. After Research were able to retrieve from the production planning data that there are 22 engines built with the Sportmatic gear. Engine-wise (this engine has special control add-ons for the semi-automatic gear), there are 19 built with European specs and 4 with the 'clean exhaust' [my interpretation] for the USA. There was not much to find in the car production data about the fact how many of these machines [Aggregate] were installed in the 914/6 or in the Special Versions of the 911 T. (The 911 model already had the 2.2 lt. engine during that period 1970/71). Only after we checked the Rolodex [best translation of 'Kartei' I think] of the Customer Service, dear Mr Reindorf, we were able to answer your question without hesitation. We were even surprised ourselves to find out that back then, these 914/6 were built! The collegues that were part of the project only had very vague memories about the few Sportmatic cars. If we would have been unable to retrieve the correct number, we would have relied on the estimates the colleagues and then we would have said that only 3 or 4 cars were built. But things were different. So, cars built: 3 cars for das Werk [=The Company] (for testing and and other trials) 2 cars for the Porsche family (one car went straight to Austria) 3 cars to the Glöckler company in Frankfurt 1 car went to the Hahn company in Stuttgart (this is your car, dear Mr Rheindorf) 2 cars were received by our agent Sonauto in France 1 car went to AMAG in Switzerland 2 cars landed in Hamburg with the Raffay company and 2 cars were sold by the Schulz company in Lintorf near Düsseldorf all together 16 cars. The were built between 9/1970 and 6/1971. We hope that this information will help you further, Kind Regards, So, in total, 23 engines were built (19 EU + 4 US), 16 cars were sold/given away. Thanks for the great info! this paper comes with the car and are not specific for this car, its just a document that came with the previous sale :-) Best regards, |
rgalla9146 |
May 25 2015, 03:03 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,560 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
The aluminum ID tag has been 'touched' as a result of crash damage.
The latch panel brace should be resistance welded not poorly mig welded Right front fender appears to be replaced. Still has small metal bracket that held rear of bumper cover on '75-'76 cars Check out the goofy vacuum plumbing on the intake manifold for the clutch diaphragm. Also, is that an exhaust pipe under the engine for a front engine car ? |
Maltese Falcon |
May 25 2015, 04:34 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,673 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Mulholland SoCal Member No.: 2,755 Region Association: None |
The aluminum ID tag has been 'touched' as a result of crash damage. The latch panel brace should be resistance welded not poorly mig welded Right front fender appears to be replaced. Still has small metal bracket that held rear of bumper cover on '75-'76 cars Check out the goofy vacuum plumbing on the intake manifold for the clutch diaphragm. Also, is that an exhaust pipe under the engine for a front engine car ? Definitely a fwd cat exhaust pipe, with the flex joint. Maybe just another collateral surplus piece from a different project... wound up on the trailer. Someone should do a quick "Eyes-on" verification on this car +buy it (if it passes the scrutiny). It's too rare to be left on the market for too long. |
altitude411 |
May 25 2015, 05:30 PM
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I drove my 6 into a tree Group: Members Posts: 1,306 Joined: 21-September 14 From: montana Member No.: 17,932 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
* edit, (withdraw my opinion)
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JeffBowlsby |
May 25 2015, 06:35 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,522 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
We have not heard a price yet.
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