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post May 24 2015, 02:39 PM
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post May 24 2015, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE(thieuster @ May 24 2015, 12:39 PM) *

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Answered :-)


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post May 24 2015, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ May 24 2015, 12:19 PM) *

Wow! And a '71 to boot. Can't be but a couple of those around.


I think there were 21 of them, and only 4 1970 Sportos. (I could have that backwards, but I think I don't.)

I saw a silver Sporto here in the Bay Area at a swap meet in the early 1990s. No idea what happened to it after that, though.

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post May 25 2015, 01:33 AM
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CAR IS STILL AVAILABLE!


more Pictures will come today on the "sporttronic" details and also the chassi nr sign so people can confirm its the specific car :-)


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post May 25 2015, 09:48 AM
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Hello everyone!

got the car to the garage now!

some pictures for you guys on the original service book, Chassi number and a very intresting letter from Porsche about the Sportmatic cars in german from 1982 and the car with engine/gearbox on the trailer.


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post May 25 2015, 09:49 AM
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Chassi Nr


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post May 25 2015, 09:50 AM
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Letter from Porsche from 1982


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post May 25 2015, 09:50 AM
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last picture of letter from Porsche


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post May 25 2015, 10:14 AM
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Oh that's interesting info! If one of you wants to have the letter translated, just let me know!

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post May 25 2015, 10:20 AM
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This is the original Service book (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) !



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post May 25 2015, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE(thieuster @ May 25 2015, 09:14 AM) *

Oh that's interesting info! If one of you wants to have the letter translated, just let me know!

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post May 25 2015, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE(thieuster @ May 25 2015, 09:14 AM) *

Oh that's interesting info! If one of you wants to have the letter translated, just let me know!


Yes, please! Each one appears to contradict other information we have on the number of Sportos built, and they even contradict each other if I am reading them correctly.

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post May 25 2015, 11:49 AM
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interesting details:
- the VIN tag is not in the correct place
- the engine number is for US market
- the letter from Porsche doesn't say anything about a car delivered to Sweden, while other European countries like Swizerland, France and Austria are listed ... US market cars are not listed

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post May 25 2015, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE(Gustl @ May 25 2015, 09:49 AM) *

interesting details:
- the VIN tag is not in the correct place
- the engine number is for US market
- the letter from Porsche doesn't say anything about a car delivered to Sweden, while other European countries like Swizerland, France and Austria are listed ... US market cars are not listed

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The car was delivered new in Sweden and was in traffic 1971-03-25 for the first time in Sweden.

I have the paperwork for it, have just not posted it.

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post May 25 2015, 12:42 PM
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Wolfgang's German is off course better than mine. He's from German speaking Austria and I am from The Netherlands. Although only one country to the left, our languages are quite different. Remember, I'm not a native speaker in English or German. So with my School German into School English... here we go!

Dear Mr Rheindorf,

We congratualate you with the aquisition of a rare product of our brand like this 914/6 with the Sportmatic gear. This car wasn't built as a series. Therefore was it hard for us to figure out how many were produced.

After Research were able to retrieve from the production planning data that there are 22 engines built with the Sportmatic gear. Engine-wise (this engine has special control add-ons for the semi-automatic gear), there are 19 built with European specs and 4 with the 'clean exhaust' [my interpretation] for the USA.

There was not much to find in the car production data about the fact how many of these machines [Aggregate] were installed in the 914/6 or in the Special Versions of the 911 T. (The 911 model already had the 2.2 lt. engine during that period 1970/71).

Only after we checked the Rolodex [best translation of 'Kartei' I think] of the Customer Service, dear Mr Reindorf, we were able to answer your question without hesitation. We were even surprised ourselves to find out that back then, these 914/6 were built! The collegues that were part of the project only had very vague memories about the few Sportmatic cars. If we would have been unable to retrieve the correct number, we would have relied on the estimates the colleagues and then we would have said that only 3 or 4 cars were built.

But things were different. So, cars built:

3 cars for das Werk [=The Company] (for testing and and other trials)
2 cars for the Porsche family (one car went straight to Austria)
3 cars to the Glöckler company in Frankfurt
1 car went to the Hahn company in Stuttgart (this is your car, dear Mr Rheindorf)
2 cars were received by our agent Sonauto in France
1 car went to AMAG in Switzerland
2 cars landed in Hamburg with the Raffay company and
2 cars were sold by the Schulz company in Lintorf near Düsseldorf

all together 16 cars.

The were built between 9/1970 and 6/1971.

We hope that this information will help you further,

Kind Regards,



So, in total, 23 engines were built (19 EU + 4 US), 16 cars were sold/given away. I hope tha this translation helps - I am sure that Wolfgang will correct my translation when he sees reason to do so!

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post May 25 2015, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(thieuster @ May 25 2015, 10:42 AM) *

Wolfgang's German is off course better than mine. He's from German speaking Austria and I am from The Netherlands. Although only one country to the left, our languages are quite different. So with my School German into School English... here we go!

Dear Mr Rheindorf,

We congratualate you with the aquisition of a rare product of our brand like this 914/6 with the Sportmatic gear. This car wasn't built as a series. Therefore was it hard for us to figure out how many were produced.

After Research were able to retrieve from the production planning data that there are 22 engines built with the Sportmatic gear. Engine-wise (this engine has special control add-ons for the semi-automatic gear), there are 19 built with European specs and 4 with the 'clean exhaust' [my interpretation] for the USA.

There was not much to find in the car production data about the fact how many of these machines [Aggregate] were installed in the 914/6 or in the Special Versions of the 911 T. (The 911 model already had the 2.2 lt. engine during that period 1970/71).

Only after we checked the Rolodex [best translation of 'Kartei' I think] of the Customer Service, dear Mr Reindorf, we were able to answer your question without hesitation. We were even surprised ourselves to find out that back then, these 914/6 were built! The collegues that were part of the project only had very vague memories about the few Sportmatic cars. If we would have been unable to retrieve the correct number, we would have relied on the estimates the colleagues and then we would have said that only 3 or 4 cars were built.

But things were different. So, cars built:

3 cars for das Werk [=The Company] (for testing and and other trials)
2 cars for the Porsche family (one car went straight to Austria)
3 cars to the Glöckler company in Frankfurt
1 car went to the Hahn company in Stuttgart (this is your car, dear Mr Rheindorf)
2 cars were received by our agent Sonauto in France
1 car went to AMAG in Switzerland
2 cars landed in Hamburg with the Raffay company and
2 cars were sold by the Schulz company in Lintorf near Düsseldorf

all together 16 cars.

The were built between 9/1970 and 6/1971.

We hope that this information will help you further,

Kind Regards,



So, in total, 23 engines were built (19 EU + 4 US), 16 cars were sold/given away.



Thanks for the great info!

this paper comes with the car and are not specific for this car, its just a document that came with the previous sale :-)

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post May 25 2015, 03:03 PM
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The aluminum ID tag has been 'touched' as a result of crash damage.
The latch panel brace should be resistance welded not poorly mig welded
Right front fender appears to be replaced. Still has small metal bracket that held rear of bumper cover on '75-'76 cars
Check out the goofy vacuum plumbing on the intake manifold for the clutch diaphragm.
Also, is that an exhaust pipe under the engine for a front engine car ?
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QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ May 25 2015, 02:03 PM) *

The aluminum ID tag has been 'touched' as a result of crash damage.
The latch panel brace should be resistance welded not poorly mig welded
Right front fender appears to be replaced. Still has small metal bracket that held rear of bumper cover on '75-'76 cars
Check out the goofy vacuum plumbing on the intake manifold for the clutch diaphragm.
Also, is that an exhaust pipe under the engine for a front engine car ?


Definitely a fwd cat exhaust pipe, with the flex joint. Maybe just another collateral surplus piece from a different project... wound up on the trailer. Someone should do a quick "Eyes-on" verification on this car +buy it (if it passes the scrutiny).
It's too rare to be left on the market for too long.
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* edit, (withdraw my opinion)
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