 Shifter rod removal, from lever to firewall... |
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| Trekkor |
 Feb 21 2005, 05:50 PM
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I do things...  Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California  |
How to?
Will it slip out with the motor in the car? This is for Randal's racecar. KT |
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| Type 4 |
Feb 21 2005, 05:53 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 412 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Costa Mesa Calif. Member No.: 2,866 |
No Its not like a bug with the forward access hole.
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| r_towle |
Feb 21 2005, 06:55 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States 
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if i recall, it wont come out with the motor in...
When I did my side shift conversion, I found that out the hard way...pretty sure it hits the engine or mount or something.... You might be able to remove the rear portion of the shifter bar and feed the other piece through the hole in the motor mount... |
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| McMark |
Feb 21 2005, 06:57 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
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Will not come out with a 4 installed. Sixes might slip by depending on how the engine is mounted. |
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| JWest |
Feb 21 2005, 07:44 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,662 Joined: 6-January 03 From: Fort Worth, TX Member No.: 97 Region Association: None
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For a side-shifter, you can do it without taking the engine (4-cyl) out, but you have to support the engine and remove the mount bar. You have just enough room to slip the rod past the engine.
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| tracks914 |
Feb 21 2005, 08:35 PM
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Canadian Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,083 Joined: 15-January 03 From: Timmins, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 153 Region Association: None  |
I had mine out last summer to change the firewall bushing. I had the engine and engine mount bar in place. I never had a problem.
Mines a '72 1.7, it might be different with a newer 2.0? |
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| Trekkor |
Feb 21 2005, 10:39 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
How 'bout with a sawsall? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sawzall-smiley.gif)
Hack the bottom of the car wide open. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif) KT |
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| sean_v8_914 |
Feb 22 2005, 01:58 AM
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Chingon 601 Group: Members Posts: 4,011 Joined: 1-February 05 From: San Diego Member No.: 3,541 |
where the (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/flipa.gif) do sum a yous get yer info. I just did mine last week with the engine unmolested. it was a 72 tail shift 4 banger
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| sean_v8_914 |
Feb 22 2005, 02:02 AM
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Chingon 601 Group: Members Posts: 4,011 Joined: 1-February 05 From: San Diego Member No.: 3,541 |
here it is
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| sean_v8_914 |
Feb 22 2005, 02:08 AM
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Chingon 601 Group: Members Posts: 4,011 Joined: 1-February 05 From: San Diego Member No.: 3,541 |
remove this coupling, then slide it out teh back
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| sean_v8_914 |
Feb 22 2005, 02:14 AM
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Chingon 601 Group: Members Posts: 4,011 Joined: 1-February 05 From: San Diego Member No.: 3,541 |
engine still in, shift rod not in. the toughest bushing to insert was the firewall. clean and lube the hole really well. drop the bushing in very hot water fro a minute, then sove it in while it is hot and pliable. hane a med flat blade screw driver handy to help the last part of teh dia in place
RATS, my camera died, cant post that last pic |
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| JWest |
Feb 22 2005, 07:14 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,662 Joined: 6-January 03 From: Fort Worth, TX Member No.: 97 Region Association: None
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(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/flipa.gif) not needed, have you tried it on a side-shifter (Randal's car is a side-shifter)? |
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| lylegd |
Feb 22 2005, 09:53 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 49 Joined: 19-August 04 From: Fort Collins, CO Member No.: 2,574 |
You can remove the front shifter bar with the engine in place but it takes some extra work. You support the weight of the engine with a jack and a board. Remove the rear shifter bar. Then remove the left side mounting bolts and the bottom nuts from the center engine mounts from the crossmember motor mount bar. Loosen but don't remove the right side mounting bolt for the crossmember. Now you can slide the front shifter shaft backwards and out through the bushing hole in the firewall. When I last did this, I had the firewall bushing removed. I'm not sure if you can remove the front shaft with the bushing still in place. PLEASE make sure the weight of the motor is safely supported. Takes about 30 minutes if you don't come across any rusty bolts. This is also a great time to examine those front rubber motor mounts to see what shape they are in.
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| Trekkor |
Feb 22 2005, 11:31 AM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
Remember, this is coming out of a '74 throwaway parts car.
It's getting cut way down. KT |
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