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> Looking at buying a 914-6 - Opinions needed ASAP!
Cairo94507
post Jun 19 2015, 10:09 PM
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Oh. Sorry- I thought you were speaking of Sir Andy's car. I know he has a Six shell in addition to the 3.6 car. Sorry for the confusion. Carry on.
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post Jun 19 2015, 10:24 PM
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Yeah, I agree, one of those two should change their name. Too much confusion.
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post Jun 20 2015, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(stugray @ Jun 19 2015, 10:35 AM) *

( My evil twin thinks that would be a perfect candidate for a VIN swap with a good roller....but that would be "immoral" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) )


Not to mention "a federal crime"...

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post Jun 20 2015, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Jun 20 2015, 10:38 AM) *

QUOTE(stugray @ Jun 19 2015, 10:35 AM) *

( My evil twin thinks that would be a perfect candidate for a VIN swap with a good roller....but that would be "immoral" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) )


Not to mention "a federal crime"...

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Not to go off topic, but well, here I go. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/evilgrin.gif)
Is there any sort of legal guideline or consensus as to how much of car B can be welded on to car A (presuming one legally owns both) before one can not refer to the finished product as car A?
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post Jun 20 2015, 05:45 PM
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And not to go off topic on your thread hi-jack, but I want to keep my car as a "numbers matching" car. But the tranny case broke. The good Dr Evil put my original tranny guts into a different tranny case. So my 914 has the original engine and tranny guts but a different differential and tranny case. So can I cut out the "numbers" from the old original tranny case, and 'glue' those numbers over the new-old non-original tranny case to get me a "numbers matching" 914?
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post Jun 20 2015, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE(Hank914 @ Jun 20 2015, 04:45 PM) *

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And not to go off topic on your thread hi-jack, but I want to keep my car as a "numbers matching" car. But the tranny case broke. The good Dr Evil put my original tranny guts into a different tranny case. So my 914 has the original engine and tranny guts but a different differential and tranny case. So can I cut out the "numbers" from the old original tranny case, and 'glue' those numbers over the new-old non-original tranny case to get me a "numbers matching" 914?

A better example might be using the original third piece of a 356/912 case along with a new replacement case to keep the same engine number and calling it the original engine. It is and it isn't. Can it only be original if it has original crank and pistons and cylinders?

On topic, if this car which looks to me like nothing more than a good candidate for a resto is really worth $37K then sixes really are going crazy.
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post Jun 20 2015, 06:23 PM
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No ones mentioned the wheels on that 6... porsche pattern torque thrusts $$$$
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post Jun 20 2015, 10:36 PM
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This whole thread is the reason I didn't go look at it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)
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post Jun 28 2015, 01:39 AM
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So what ever happened with this 914-6 ???

Did it sell???

Did Cuda buy it???

What is the consensus on it's real world value???
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post Jun 28 2015, 04:24 AM
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I looked at the car a second time a few days ago when it was in the shop to get the hood open.

Mugs looked over the car pretty well too. Overall, it looks like a fairly solid car, with a TON of smaller items that need to be addressed. No one single item is all that bad, but there is quite an accumulation of small stuff.

Still considering it. Was watching the car when it was on Ebay... it stalled at 24K and didn't sell.
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post Jun 28 2015, 05:04 AM
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Just a few months ago that car would have sold very quickly. Fewer cars are going back to Europe due to the exchange rate not being as favorable as it once was. Also, I don't have any empirical data, but, it feels like the market is slowing for cars that need work
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post Jun 28 2015, 05:32 AM
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I didn't see that it finished at $24,000 on Ebay.
That is a surprise.
This year, a non-number matching, non-running 6 with many needs including floor rust sold for $31,000. Silver too. And it stayed here.
I like the Torque Thrusts, nice, period correct American Racing wheels.
The American twist on Minilites.
If it was within 300 miles I'd be looking it over.
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post Jun 28 2015, 06:30 AM
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QUOTE(siverson @ Jun 19 2015, 08:02 AM) *

Yes, seems like a pretty decent car. It looks somewhat similar in condition to my green car when I got it. And I think the investment required is similar.

I think the math is something like:

$30k - buy the car
$10k - metal/rust/body work
$10k - paint
$5k - interior
$20k - rebuild engine and transmission
$10k - lots of small parts, bolts, rubber, plating, etc

= $85k total + a bazillion hours of work and you have a REALLY nice 914 that you could probably sell for $80k-$85k. But that's at least a year from now, so prices will either be way up, or you'll have $85k into a $40k 914!

But if you're going to do the project to keep it for a long time and have fun, this seems like a really great start.

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As in every restoration it is more likely that you will find some more things to do and this sum, Steve has mentioned, may rise.


Costs can be reduced by doing most of the work by your own.
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post Jun 28 2015, 06:50 AM
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QUOTE(Kaeferfreund @ Jun 19 2015, 02:21 PM) *

QUOTE(siverson @ Jun 19 2015, 08:02 AM) *

Yes, seems like a pretty decent car. It looks somewhat similar in condition to my green car when I got it. And I think the investment required is similar.

I think the math is something like:

$30k - buy the car
$10k - metal/rust/body work
$10k - paint
$5k - interior
$20k - rebuild engine and transmission
$10k - lots of small parts, bolts, rubber, plating, etc

= $85k total + a bazillion hours of work and you have a REALLY nice 914 that you could probably sell for $80k-$85k. But that's at least a year from now, so prices will either be way up, or you'll have $85k into a $40k 914!

But if you're going to do the project to keep it for a long time and have fun, this seems like a really great start.

-Steve


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As in every restoration it is more likely that you will find some more things to do and this sum, Steve has mentioned, may rise.


Costs can be reduced by doing most of the work by your own.


True, but becomes very time consuming, thus the reason so many partially-finished restorations show up on the market. Thus one has to be very dedicated to cause...

As for BillH's comment about the market slowing, time will tell if it really is. The bubble will burst at some point, but the unknown is how much longer before we reach that point.

But if one has the funds and is looking to own for the sake of ownership rather than as an investment, then the market being high or low doesn't really matter.
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post Jun 28 2015, 07:55 AM
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Dead on with the exchange rate. I don't expect anything more than a temporary lull though. I think 20-30 below the average now is the new floor.
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post Jun 28 2015, 07:57 AM
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BTW - I hate when people nickel and dime a potential restoration. Yes, you do have to have a budget, but love the car! That is if you are an enthusiast.

That black car needs some love, and your losses if any will well be worth the journey, and the downside of full loss is minimal.
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