I would like your opinions on intercooler mount, fabrication into the trunk lid |
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I would like your opinions on intercooler mount, fabrication into the trunk lid |
iamchappy |
Feb 24 2005, 09:39 PM
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I am playing around with different options on installing the intercooler in the trunk. let me know what you all think. Oh, by the way I fired up the new turbo install today, man does it sound sweet.
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db9146 |
Feb 24 2005, 09:48 PM
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I like the "spoiler" idea. There is likely to be a little more pressure there and the look is cleaner. You could route the air down through the intercooler and dump it just under the rear rubber top cover through the bumper. With a little bit of work on the lower valence (ie. ground effects), it would blend right in.
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iamchappy |
Feb 24 2005, 09:50 PM
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The spoiler and the naca ducts are the ones that Im thinking I like the best.
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Carrera916 |
Feb 24 2005, 10:34 PM
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Ummm....
I liked the looks and setting of the spoiler and nasa duct positions. I also think it is the best location to get the air flow it needs. The hood scoop and grill type is too far forward where the air is pretty much in the negative area (low air pressure, not forced). Yes I know the original engine lid is at the negative area, however it is the engine cooling fan that sucks the outside air in and it's much easier to pull air in on the low pressure air area. With the intercooler, it needs to be in the flow of the air when driving.... Just my observation, guys.....(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif) j |
Aaron Cox |
Feb 24 2005, 10:46 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
spoiler.... it sees air at speed causing it to function
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Jeroen |
Feb 25 2005, 07:04 AM
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I think the spoiler setup will work best (for reasons explained by Jerry above)
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iamchappy |
Feb 25 2005, 07:42 AM
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It all happens so fast! Group: Members Posts: 4,893 Joined: 5-November 03 From: minnetonka, mn Member No.: 1,315 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
If I went with the forward position with the grill and or the scoop I would help it by pulling the air through it with an electric radiator fan.
With the intercooler mounted in the rear area, I agree it will be able to catch the air better I could remove the Porsche tail lense in the rear and put some grill mesh there to allow flow through. I really want to get started on it, I even woke up this morning at 4am just to see if anyone had responded. |
Jeroen |
Feb 25 2005, 08:02 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
A fan would surely help if you put it to the front, but you won't get as much cooling as from "driving wind"
I'd put it in the back (spoiler) |
iamchappy |
Feb 25 2005, 08:36 AM
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Here are some ideas for exit air.
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iamchappy |
Feb 25 2005, 08:37 AM
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another
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iamchappy |
Feb 25 2005, 08:42 AM
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iamchappy |
Feb 25 2005, 10:10 AM
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It all happens so fast! Group: Members Posts: 4,893 Joined: 5-November 03 From: minnetonka, mn Member No.: 1,315 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Another idea came to mind, Have a door open on positive vacuum like the spoiler option that raises on the Porsches when the approach 50mph. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif)
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soloracer |
Feb 25 2005, 01:19 PM
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I like the NACA duct and spoiler model. I was concerned how you had the air exiting but it looks pretty clean with the cut out in the rear. Does anyone know how well the air will flow back there? I was under the impression it was pretty poor and that was why most track 914's have these huge 747 wings on them.
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Reiche |
Feb 25 2005, 01:37 PM
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Looks like some air hits the very back of the trunk. Most of it swirls forward but not all.
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mike_the_man |
Feb 25 2005, 01:41 PM
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I'm going to toss my hat in for the spoiler idea as well. Kinda 930ish, I think. I'm certainly no expert when it comes to air flow, but I think it would look the cleanest.
What new turbo set up did you go with? Did I miss a thread about it? |
iamchappy |
Feb 25 2005, 01:50 PM
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It all happens so fast! Group: Members Posts: 4,893 Joined: 5-November 03 From: minnetonka, mn Member No.: 1,315 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I just taped off the spoiler to see how it looks, I had a few extra engine grills so I shaped and cut it to size. I will post the results.
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mattillac |
Feb 25 2005, 01:59 PM
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robots! Group: Members Posts: 536 Joined: 27-October 04 From: vallejo,ca Member No.: 3,020 |
NACA ducts, vent between the tail lights and a fan(s). looks really clean. maybe just one larger naca duct?
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eeyore |
Feb 25 2005, 02:59 PM
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I'll be the a-hole on NACA ducts.
To quote: The purpose of a NACA duct is to increase the flowrate of air through it while not disturbing the boundary layer. When the cross-sectional flow area of the duct is increased, you decrease the static pressure and make the duct into a vacuum cleaner, but without the drag effects of a plain scoop. The reason why the duct is narrow, then suddenly widens in a graceful arc is to increase the cross-sectional area slowly so that airflow doesn't separate and cause turbulence (and drag). The NACA duct and spoiler combination seem to be a cross purposes. A spoiler creates drag, the NACA duct is to eliminate drag. The NACA duct also exists to suck air in where there isn't enough pressure to push it in. Yet, the purpose of a spoiler is to hold a pile of air on the rear of the car, which equals the pressure you need to push air into the car. You either need one or the other. To have both seems functionally 'rice-like' -- such as putting a wing on the back of a FWD car. I'd go with a 930 look. Push the intake back to the base of the spoiler, and set the grill/intake so it is below the surface of the decklid, like a shallow funnel. |
iamchappy |
Feb 25 2005, 06:51 PM
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It all happens so fast! Group: Members Posts: 4,893 Joined: 5-November 03 From: minnetonka, mn Member No.: 1,315 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Well I started to rough it in. I will still have to widen the opening a little more, and I plan on sloping the opening down to direct the flow over the entire intercooler.
Here are some pictures of todays carving. Attached thumbnail(s) |
mattillac |
Feb 25 2005, 07:00 PM
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robots! Group: Members Posts: 536 Joined: 27-October 04 From: vallejo,ca Member No.: 3,020 |
that looks pretty cool. nevermind the naca ducts. maybe a naca duct for the turbo inlet?
use a naca duct somewhere, 'cause they look cool. |
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