Root Werks and glass flares, Just a "how I do it" Options

[Root_Werks]

In the almost year I have been acvite on the club, I have seen or heard about lots of glass flares being installed on 914's. Rick(alien) mentioned once he had to pull the lower corners out, add some material to keep them there. Others mentioned being able to see glass mat through the paint ect. Well, I will post more detialed pic's of course, but here is a couple of the flares I am putting on CAMP914's V8 car. His yellow on had rear flares installed (FG) and I am putting the front ones on for him.

[Root_Werks]

These two are not close up shots. But I wanted to stress the importance of storing FG stuff properly. I am assuming the person who did this car bought all 4 flares and only installed the rears. Then I am guessing the fronts were stored for a length of time. These flares must have been laid out flat? It took a while and a lot of screws to get them shaped correctly to the fender. I started out by taping them on, marking them and then cutting inside the line 1/2-1". Then grinding the paint off down to bare metal. Fit and screw the flare on. I use little screws for ease of removal. After this weekend, I will show the different stages of bonding outside, inside, remove screws, bond outside, inside, sand, bond, sand, bond, sand, bond, fill and feather. it is a long process, but it is super strong when you are done and if done right, you will have even a paper thin layer of evercoat over all glassing so after you paint, you won't see any mat or holes etc.

[TravisNeff]

Great! We'd love to see that

[Root_Werks]

Here is the other side, only ones I have for now. I carefully sand down the glass flare edge after screwing on the flares to lower the FG and pre form it even better to the fender. Then I carefully glass and mat between the screws front and back. On Craigs car here, the PO sprayed the tar underbody in the fender wells. Great stuff, until you try to remove it! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) I still have little black specs on my face (tar). (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif) I usually only grind down to bare metal only as far back as I need, 1-2" is about all you need. After this weekend, I will post more close ups. This way Craig will see I am really working on his car too! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/happy11.gif)

[Root_Werks]

This is a shot of another 914 I did. You can get an idea of how much is cut off the car. I only leave 1/2 - 1" lip to bond the flare to. The very first set I did(years ago), I left a huge 3-4" lip which hung low. Not good, leaves places for dirt to collect and you cannot bond from both sides. But I will shoot pic's of the inside this weekend. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sawzall-smiley.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/happy11.gif)

[pete-stevers]

looks great Root... show us the whole process... great idea for a thread
thanks (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
steve

[Quebecer]

What products are you using?

Good work by the way!

[Root_Werks]

Just FG resin and cloth. I will post more on the filler I use after this weekend. I use a FG filler, it is strong, very hard to sand. So I apply a couple of very thin layers so I am not sanding for hours. Then I use evercoat to lightly cover all the work so you don't ever see screw holes or seams. I will also show better pictures of what I leave on the lower part of the fender for support so the flares don't "Sag" over time. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sawzall-smiley.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/happy11.gif)

[URY914]

Go, Dan Go.

I'm still picking f/g dust out of my nose 6 months later. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

Paul

[redshift]

Hey cool, DIY plastic knockers! Kiss me, I'm a plasket sturgeon!

So, the bond is over both sides, and they are both ground out, and then re-matted, or just filler?


M

[root]

Hey Root Werks!

Really interested in this thread. I posted some pix of my FG flare install
a couple of weeks ago. We got a couple days of warm weekend weather
here in VA and I got started on the flares.

I have a question for you..... I made up a couple test coupons before starting
the flare install to see which method gave me the most strerngth and to
get a feel for fibermorphing again, 'cause it's been a couple years since my last project.

Making the test coupons I found that I had to cut short pieces of cloth to fit
between the screw down points. If I used a long piece of cloth the hold down screw
would tend to grab the cloth and spin it around making a mess. Of course I was able to lay extra long pieces of cloth 12"" or so around the out side edge of the hold down screws.

The question is how do you do this (laydown the inner cloth)? I'll post a pic of the way I do it next time the weather breaks here. I just don't want to sand in the garage fiber
resin dust gets in everything,

[root]

here's one of the pics from my post .....

[rhodyguy]

nice dan. for craig, is this j-lo?

k

[Root_Werks]

QUOTE (rhodyguy @ Feb 26 2005, 08:55 AM)

nice dan. for craig, is this j-lo? k

This is the V8 car he just got not too long ago. FG flares one the rear, but not the front, speaking of, better go get to work on it. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

[rhodyguy]

ok. i think it's the gh car. it's hard to keep track with craig.

k

[Root_Werks]

Here is a little better shot to show how I glass between the screws, front and then the back side.

[Root_Werks]

One more like the last one.

[Root_Werks]

That last shot you can see I actually sanded down the flare better before glassing it to the fender. This shot shows what metal I left behind to bond to on the lower corners of the fender. 99% of paint is ground away to bare metal. Sometimes I miss a little spot here and there, but I awlays grind it clean. This 914 had THICK underbody coating which cost a lot of time to prep.

[Root_Werks]

This one shows a good shot of how well the inside of the flare fit against the fender. It is a good fit and will be bonded 100% around the seam. I finished all the bonding inside yesterday. I took this pic in the middle of cleaning up still.

[Root_Werks]

Last one for now, simple FG matierials I am using. All the screws got pulled out yesterday so I could bond the inside seams 100% around and lower corners. Today I will sand off 50% of what I bonded on the front and re-bond it. But more on that later.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) The front of the fender flares have warped a little over time. Paul knows what I am talking about! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)