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> V-8 conversions, anyone regret doing it?
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post Feb 26 2005, 02:21 PM
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Still contemplating what way to go with for a motor. I'm down to either staying with a type 4 (R.A.T.)or doing the V-8 thing. I'm not totally sold on doing a V-8 yet, it still seems a little out of character for the car(yet I keep coming back to that option, power and price I guess). I'm afraid of winding up with a "point and shoot" car. Any help?
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post Feb 26 2005, 02:26 PM
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Why is the Porsche SIX out of the question?

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post Feb 26 2005, 02:33 PM
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finding a guaranteed healthy one and rebuild costs kinda scared me off. There is still always the possiblity of that too, that was my first plan when I fell in lust with 914s.
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post Feb 26 2005, 02:33 PM
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Usually it's a case of dollars spent vs. power gains. I would love a 400 hp porsche 6 but not for the cost of a small third world country.
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post Feb 26 2005, 02:40 PM
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I did a six conversion with a 3.2.
If I was going to do a V8 conversion I would hang out at the Pomona swap meet in So cal. and buy one already done.
They are a hell of alot cheaper than doing it yourself.
The same can be said for six conversions but I have seen more V8 conversions on the used market.
The biggest issue I see is the HP versus transmission issue.
If your running a six or V8 with 300hp or more you will need a limited slip.
Even with my car and 240 HP it will break a tire loose at 70mph which can be pretty scary.
It only chirps the tire so I'm not that worried.
I'm running a stock 901/914 trans with 245-45-16" tires in the rear and no limited slip.
I have heard of V8 914's spinning a tire at these speeds and causing the car to spin out or hit a tree.
Its easy to buy some parts and build one but you need to look at the cost of the end result which could include a beefed up 901/914 trans with limited slip or a 915/916 trans with limited slip.
With the proper brakes and everything else you can quickly end up with a money pit.
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post Feb 26 2005, 02:45 PM
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After shocks, suspension, tires, wheels, engine and conversion parts...uh oh, my wife... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/unsure.gif)
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post Feb 26 2005, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE (Steve @ Feb 26 2005, 12:40 PM)


They are a hell of alot cheaper than doing it yourself.
The same can be said for six conversions but I have seen more V8 conversions on the used market.
The biggest issue I see is the HP versus transmission issue.
If your running a six or V8 with 300hp or more you will need a limited slip.
Even with my car and 240 HP it will break a tire loose at 70mph which can be pretty scary.
It only chirps the tire so I'm not that worried.
I'm running a stock 901/914 trans with 245-45-16" tires in the rear and no limited slip.
I have heard of V8 914's spinning a tire at these speeds and causing the car to spin out or hit a tree.
Its easy to buy some parts and build one but you need to look at the cost of the end result which could include a beefed up 901/914 trans with limited slip or a 915/916 trans with limited slip.
With the proper brakes and everything else you can quickly end up with a money pit.

Yeah, I know. Which I guess is why staying with the 4 is probably winning out over the others. Not that I won't turn that into a money pit either.
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post Feb 26 2005, 02:53 PM
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It doesnt add up to be that much.. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

You'll spend the same thing on a six... and end up saying "I could have had an 8"

The only thing I dont like, is that Porsche doesnt think I have a real 914...

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post Feb 26 2005, 02:58 PM
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Get a ride in a V8.. just be prepared that there's no turning back (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)
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post Feb 26 2005, 02:59 PM
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suby your car for 2500 or less, with 175 hp or go suby 3.3 for 240 hp stock, or turbo suby for 300 hp
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post Feb 26 2005, 03:42 PM
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I love my V8. As bondo said, there's no turning back once you experience a well made conversion. When I go drive a four it's noisy, slow, and underpowered. Downside - more stops at the gas station. You can have a fun car without suspension, brake and transaxle upgrades. When everything is rebuilt as new the stock parts are just fine for a street car.
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post Feb 26 2005, 04:18 PM
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Once you had a six or an 8 you will never go back to a stock four.
That being said I need to get a ride in a 914 with a V8.
Hopefully someone will give me a ride at the WCC.
I think we should host a drive the beast session.
We can take turns driving each others beasts.
Anybody bringing a Suby or Raby beast?
I will bring my 3.2 six.
Maybe Scott will have his V8 there.
I know there will be other 8's and sixes there.
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post Feb 26 2005, 04:36 PM
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Mine will be there (On a trailer.. YAY!!! allows me to flog it as much as I want with no worries about not being able to drive home) So anyone who needs to have a ride in one can take one in mine.

I SHOULD have it done to my likings by then, If I get some time to work on it. I have the money I need, just not the time.. lol
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post Feb 26 2005, 06:42 PM
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I think I'm going to have to check out some 8's in person.
I'll be doing suspension and brake upgrades anyway.
Look what you guys are starting!
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post Feb 26 2005, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE (chrisg @ Feb 26 2005, 05:42 PM)
I think I'm going to have to check out some 8's in person.
I'll be doing suspension and brake upgrades anyway.
Look what you guys are starting!

Paso! Sweet, I didn't notice that at first.. we're getting a bigger group of "locals" now.. One of these days I'll have to host a 914club BBQ (once I actually HAVE a BBQ and a respectable backyard) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)
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post Feb 26 2005, 07:28 PM
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Only regerts I have about the V8 914 is that I didn't have one earlier.
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post Feb 26 2005, 07:46 PM
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I dont have any regrets except that I didnt buy one already done. The advantage is I know every single inch of this car. Good and bad. I wanted a 4 also so now I have both. The money is gone now but I will nickle and dime them both till I get them right. The other advantage is getting to do it the way you want it. I built the Chalon to be the exact car I wanted. You can never buy one like that. Everyone has different tastes. Mine will be at the WCC but when you put as much time, love and money into something like this, you really dont want anyone else to drive it. Think of this car like my wife. I dont want anyone else riding her, its mine. Sorry guys. I wouldnt even ask someone to take their car for a drive. I would feel uncomfortable. Like doing someone else wife. If someone offers, I will but I wouldnt ask.
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post Feb 26 2005, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE (Steve @ Feb 26 2005, 02:18 PM)
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Once you had a six or an 8 you will never go back to a stock four.
That being said I need to get a ride in a 914 with a V8.
Hopefully someone will give me a ride at the WCC.
I think we should host a drive the beast session.
We can take turns driving each others beasts.
Anybody bringing a Suby or Raby beast?
I will bring my 3.2 six.
Maybe Scott will have his V8 there.
I know there will be other 8's and sixes there.

Steve,

i just dropped a new tranny in my V-8. i need to get some brake work and alignment done for my peace of mind.

I'm in Garden Grove and you are welcome to come by and check it out and go for a drive.
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post Feb 26 2005, 08:29 PM
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Joe Buckle,
I just might take you up on that offer one of these days.
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post Feb 26 2005, 08:32 PM
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assuming that was to me also, and not just Steve.
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