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| garrettlee2 |
 Jul 21 2015, 12:12 AM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 158 Joined: 8-September 12 From: riverside ca Member No.: 14,901 Region Association: None  |
Does anyone know what trans works with a 928 motor in a 914? I was thinking about using an Audi motor but I want something dumber that will work with 4 Webers. Thanks for the input.
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| JeffBowlsby |
Jul 21 2015, 01:17 AM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,510 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None 
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Why not use the stock 928 fuel injection?
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| Rand |
Jul 21 2015, 01:32 AM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
Dude, at least ask Rick abut this
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| EdwardBlume |
Jul 21 2015, 02:04 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/alien.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/alien.gif)
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/alien_2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/alien_2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/very_first_smiley[1].gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/very_first_smiley[1].gif) http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...79834&st=20 Post 34 |
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| Tom_T |
Jul 21 2015, 07:06 AM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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He's a newbie folks & I doubt he'll get all your cryptic symbolism here:
Try PM or email to Rick with the 928 powered alien" 914-8: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=43 Yes it will work & can be done. The harder one would be to do a 908 powered flat-8 aircooled like the 2 factour 914-8 prototypes, cuz those motors & transaxles are like hens teeth! Good Luck! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// |
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| rhodyguy |
Jul 21 2015, 08:35 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,081 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Buying, configuring, and dialing in 4 webers? No thank you. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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| Elliot Cannon |
Jul 21 2015, 10:56 AM
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914 Guru Group: Retired Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 29-December 06 From: Paso Robles Ca. (Central coast) Member No.: 7,407 Region Association: None 
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Who in their right mind would put a 928 engine in a 914? What? Oh, right... Never mind. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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| Jacob |
Jul 21 2015, 11:01 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 131 Joined: 12-February 08 From: Mansfield, Oh Member No.: 8,705 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Alien Build Thread:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=7725 Lots of good information there! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) |
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| Mueller |
Jul 21 2015, 02:55 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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Stock 901 transmission with a homemade* adapter is what Rick did.
Transfer punches, jig saw and a wood router is what he used if I am correct! |
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| Chris914n6 |
Jul 21 2015, 05:47 PM
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Jackstands are my life. Group: Members Posts: 3,321 Joined: 14-March 03 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 431 Region Association: Southwest Region |
As far as I know the 928 never had carbs, so it's a no better choice than an Audi motor. The bonus is the Audi motor will bolt to the VW/Audi/Boxster trans.
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| Mike Bellis |
Jul 21 2015, 07:53 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,345 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None
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What's wrong with an Audi motor? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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| rick 918-S |
Jul 21 2015, 08:21 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,464 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region
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Webers on a 928 engine have been done. There was a street rod done in California in the 80's. More of a show car than a driver.
928 engines are a very different animal. The US spec engines are only 218-219 hp. Kind of a waste of time when you can bolt in a 6 with no drama and get that easy. The euro engines stock are 300-310 advertised hp. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) The engines are higher compression, have larger valves, bigger ports, the inside of the spyder runners are larger and the throttle body is way bigger than the US engine. There are very few mods that can be done. The challenge is the block. It's made of allusil. The whole block. You can only run the special iron coated pistons. Try to use aftermarket pistons and they stick to the block. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) The other limitation are the cams. They are a long duration short lift designed for F.I. Not suited for carbs. The engine I have is what is called a hybrid. I am running a 5.0 block and pistons. The 5.0 is a 32 valve engine. I had the piston notched for 16 valve heads. I have a complete euro-spec "S" 16 valve top end with CIS. This combo is producing over 350 RW hp. in the 928's turning all the accessories. I'm only turning an alternator. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/assimilate.gif) Oh: and I used a 901 with an HB 5th and sorted stack. It's a custom length side shift. (as in I cut the housing with a router to make it fit. No one makes any conversion parts. I made my own adaptor plate and custom flywheel and clutch. I drive the car hard. Sandy and I have been to almost every corner of the country more than once. I built a cruiser not a town car. |
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| garrettlee2 |
Jul 21 2015, 08:30 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 158 Joined: 8-September 12 From: riverside ca Member No.: 14,901 Region Association: None |
thanks for all the input. and by the was taking advice from a guy that doesn't eat meat is like taking advice from a woman, rite Elliot
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| rick 918-S |
Jul 21 2015, 08:35 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,464 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region
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QUOTE(garrettlee2 @ Jul 21 2015, 09:30 PM)  thanks for all the input. and by the was taking advice from a guy that doesn't eat meat is like taking advice from a woman, rite Elliot (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hide.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) |
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| EdwardBlume |
Jul 21 2015, 10:42 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California
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| naro914 |
Jul 23 2015, 03:16 PM
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Losing my mind... Group: Members Posts: 2,476 Joined: 26-May 06 From: Charlotte, NC Member No.: 6,073 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Jul 21 2015, 10:21 PM) Webers on a 928 engine have been done. There was a street rod done in California in the 80's. More of a show car than a driver. 928 engines are a very different animal. The US spec engines are only 218-219 hp. Kind of a waste of time when you can bolt in a 6 with no drama and get that easy. The euro engines stock are 300-310 advertised hp. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) The engines are higher compression, have larger valves, bigger ports, the inside of the spyder runners are larger and the throttle body is way bigger than the US engine. There are very few mods that can be done. The challenge is the block. It's made of allusil. The whole block. You can only run the special iron coated pistons. Try to use aftermarket pistons and they stick to the block. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) The other limitation are the cams. They are a long duration short lift designed for F.I. Not suited for carbs. The engine I have is what is called a hybrid. I am running a 5.0 block and pistons. The 5.0 is a 32 valve engine. I had the piston notched for 16 valve heads. I have a complete euro-spec "S" 16 valve top end with CIS. This combo is producing over 350 RW hp. in the 928's turning all the accessories. I'm only turning an alternator. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/assimilate.gif) Oh: and I used a 901 with an HB 5th and sorted stack. It's a custom length side shift. (as in I cut the housing with a router to make it fit. No one makes any conversion parts. I made my own adaptor plate and custom flywheel and clutch. I drive the car hard. Sandy and I have been to almost every corner of the country more than once. I built a cruiser not a town car. 928 motor in a 914? Crazy talk...only crazy people would do something like that... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/alien.gif) and all 914's should be kept bone stock!! oh...wait... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) Rick...wasn't there something about it actually not fitting and having to 'move' the firewall? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) |
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| rick 918-S |
Jul 23 2015, 08:51 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,464 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region
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QUOTE(naro914 @ Jul 23 2015, 04:16 PM) QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Jul 21 2015, 10:21 PM) Webers on a 928 engine have been done. There was a street rod done in California in the 80's. More of a show car than a driver. 928 engines are a very different animal. The US spec engines are only 218-219 hp. Kind of a waste of time when you can bolt in a 6 with no drama and get that easy. The euro engines stock are 300-310 advertised hp. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) The engines are higher compression, have larger valves, bigger ports, the inside of the spyder runners are larger and the throttle body is way bigger than the US engine. There are very few mods that can be done. The challenge is the block. It's made of allusil. The whole block. You can only run the special iron coated pistons. Try to use aftermarket pistons and they stick to the block. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) The other limitation are the cams. They are a long duration short lift designed for F.I. Not suited for carbs. The engine I have is what is called a hybrid. I am running a 5.0 block and pistons. The 5.0 is a 32 valve engine. I had the piston notched for 16 valve heads. I have a complete euro-spec "S" 16 valve top end with CIS. This combo is producing over 350 RW hp. in the 928's turning all the accessories. I'm only turning an alternator. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/assimilate.gif) Oh: and I used a 901 with an HB 5th and sorted stack. It's a custom length side shift. (as in I cut the housing with a router to make it fit. No one makes any conversion parts. I made my own adaptor plate and custom flywheel and clutch. I drive the car hard. Sandy and I have been to almost every corner of the country more than once. I built a cruiser not a town car. 928 motor in a 914? Crazy talk...only crazy people would do something like that... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/alien.gif) and all 914's should be kept bone stock!! oh...wait... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) Rick...wasn't there something about it actually not fitting and having to 'move' the firewall? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) Hi Bob (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Ya, Not even close to a bolt in deal. Not for the faint of heart... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) |
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| naro914 |
Jul 24 2015, 06:17 AM
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Losing my mind... Group: Members Posts: 2,476 Joined: 26-May 06 From: Charlotte, NC Member No.: 6,073 Region Association: South East States |
We would really LOVE to see Alien at Okteenerfest! (oh, and you and the misses too!!) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Amazingly, you made that engine look like it fit just fine. A true testament to "if you can dream it, it can happen!" |
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| arkitect |
Jul 24 2015, 06:28 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 617 Joined: 3-March 10 From: Stockton, CA Member No.: 11,426 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Jul 21 2015, 07:21 PM) Webers on a 928 engine have been done. There was a street rod done in California in the 80's. More of a show car than a driver. 928 engines are a very different animal. The US spec engines are only 218-219 hp. Kind of a waste of time when you can bolt in a 6 with no drama and get that easy. The euro engines stock are 300-310 advertised hp. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) The engines are higher compression, have larger valves, bigger ports, the inside of the spyder runners are larger and the throttle body is way bigger than the US engine. There are very few mods that can be done. The challenge is the block. It's made of allusil. The whole block. You can only run the special iron coated pistons. Try to use aftermarket pistons and they stick to the block. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) The other limitation are the cams. They are a long duration short lift designed for F.I. Not suited for carbs. The engine I have is what is called a hybrid. I am running a 5.0 block and pistons. The 5.0 is a 32 valve engine. I had the piston notched for 16 valve heads. I have a complete euro-spec "S" 16 valve top end with CIS. This combo is producing over 350 RW hp. in the 928's turning all the accessories. I'm only turning an alternator. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/assimilate.gif) Oh: and I used a 901 with an HB 5th and sorted stack. It's a custom length side shift. (as in I cut the housing with a router to make it fit. No one makes any conversion parts. I made my own adaptor plate and custom flywheel and clutch. I drive the car hard. Sandy and I have been to almost every corner of the country more than once. I built a cruiser not a town car. Rick, It would be great to see your built alien in person one day. Don't know if you went to the last WCR. Dave |
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| Mark Henry |
Jul 24 2015, 07:23 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Jul 21 2015, 10:35 AM) Buying, configuring, and dialing in 4 webers? No thank you. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) There's a guy who comes to the local car cruse with a 4 weber IDA set up. For american iron they used to sell a bolt on manifold and all, like the one below. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq3kSe0qujg |
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