Intake Runners Phenolic Gaskets, install dry or with??? |
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Intake Runners Phenolic Gaskets, install dry or with??? |
Bruce Allert |
Feb 27 2005, 05:41 PM
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Hellions asleep Group: Members Posts: 3,289 Joined: 19-March 03 From: Eagle Creek, Orygun Member No.: 441 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
My first post said intake plenum instead of runners. Prolly made a few of ya's go.. Huh? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/unsure.gif) Anyway, I'm restaing the question with the correct title (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) sorry! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif)
Do these gaskets get installed dry.... gasket against metal with no gasket seal like the stuff we use on the valve covers? Got mine off to replace runner hose so as to eliminate another vacuum leak possibility. Speaking of... I found the nuts on the runners to be a little more than hand tight. This may have been the leak I was looking for but it's off now so the new goes on. Also, anyone know the torque? thanks..........b |
TheCabinetmaker |
Feb 27 2005, 05:53 PM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,325 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
Bruce, I install them without sealant, but I don't use sealant on the valve covers either. Just a liberal coat of hi-temp wheel bearing grease.
None of my books give a torque value. |
Rusty |
Feb 27 2005, 05:55 PM
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Wanted: Engine case GA003709 Group: Admin Posts: 7,952 Joined: 24-December 02 From: North Alabama Member No.: 6 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
I don't use sealant, either. Just a light coat of vaseline.
-Rusty (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smoke.gif) |
Bruce Allert |
Feb 27 2005, 05:56 PM
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Hellions asleep Group: Members Posts: 3,289 Joined: 19-March 03 From: Eagle Creek, Orygun Member No.: 441 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Hey Curt, thanks. My books didn't give torque specs either.
Alrighty then, back out to cleaning the top of the tins & other stuff (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif) .........b |
TheCabinetmaker |
Feb 27 2005, 06:01 PM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,325 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
Your welcome.
Speaking of cleaning engine tin, hers's a pic of our spare motor ready to go in my car will I do a 2056 build. I did a little clean up. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) Attached thumbnail(s) |
Allan |
Feb 27 2005, 06:06 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
Where is your rod for the cooling flaps?
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TheCabinetmaker |
Feb 27 2005, 06:12 PM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,325 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
Cooling flaps were long gone from this motor, along with thermostat, wire, and pully. It's a spare. I don't worry about it much.
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jones |
Feb 27 2005, 06:23 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 126 Joined: 4-March 04 From: Seattle Member No.: 1,751 |
But why not some sort of gasket sealant? With our FI cars not liking any vacuum leaks wouldn’t some sort of silicone goop be prudent (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)
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Cap'n Krusty |
Feb 27 2005, 06:37 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
If the surfaces are smooth and the paper gasket material on the phenolic blocks is undamaged, there is no need for sealant, especially the silicone type. You need the blocks as a heat shield for the injectors. The Torque is 2mkp, or 14.5 ft/lbs. I use 18 myownself. The Cap'n
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jones |
Feb 27 2005, 07:03 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 126 Joined: 4-March 04 From: Seattle Member No.: 1,751 |
Sorry for the hijack. What is suggested for the intake runner boots?
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TheCabinetmaker |
Feb 27 2005, 07:09 PM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,325 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
If you are referring to the boots from the plenum to the runners, they are available new for the 2.0L. Part#039 133 241. You can use them on the 1.7/1.8, but clamps will be necessary.
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jones |
Feb 27 2005, 07:21 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 126 Joined: 4-March 04 From: Seattle Member No.: 1,751 |
vsg914, I have new ones for my 2.0L. Do they require a sealant for install? My old ones would spin by hand on the runners thus a probable huge vacuum leak. Thanks
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TheCabinetmaker |
Feb 27 2005, 07:27 PM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,325 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
I've never seen them with sealant. If loose, they are prolly old and stretched. If the new ones are loose, I would use some hose clamps, but ya shouldn't have to.
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McMark |
Feb 27 2005, 08:50 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
You'll know the answer when you try to put the new ones on. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) No sealant necessary. Vury tight. |
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Allan |
Feb 27 2005, 09:29 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) Very tight. I'm thinking I will have to use some type of lubricant to get them on.
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