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2.2L is not enough, Bored out.. or Bored to Tears.. |
forrestkhaag |
Aug 3 2015, 07:05 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 935 Joined: 21-April 14 From: Scottsdale, Arizona Member No.: 17,273 Region Association: Southwest Region |
It would be interesting to start a thread that focuses on the evolution of one's mindset on upgrades to power and reliability in the 914MorphWorld. We all start off with a beater and go in every direction money makes possible.
I am satisfied with the outcome of my upgrade to a 2.2L normally aspirated dual-2 4 from the very sedate 1.7 that unshakably took me to PS, SS, and out of State runs regularly... The change in power, RPM range and delivery of response is very rewarding. Now, after 1K on the new mill, its time to consider what is next. My (30 year old) kid is a Chevelle guy with a beautiful AZ car / 12 bolt main 4 spd 2 bucket 502 SS - he cannot even fathom why I start my car up in the morning. But. Given an unlimited budget and a willingness to exceed it, what is the read out there on a Chevy / Renegade FI LS conversion? I have had all the 911, 993 and 996 stuff I can stomach. I have the brakes and suspension set up on all four corners / the basis of any good power upgrade. Jessie's car at Ruby's on Sunday was an eye opener as to start-up, music in the engine bay, and especially the GITGO! All nightmares and antidotes welcome... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
76-914 |
Aug 3 2015, 07:23 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,502 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
Go for it. You only live once. How much down time are you allocating for the build?
Horsepower is addictive. I just saw a set of Pauter Rods, a set of turbo's and low compression pistons for my 3.0 and I'm thinking, "How much will an additional 400hp cost me, per hp"? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I'd better get my AC installed first. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) |
steuspeed |
Aug 3 2015, 07:27 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,006 Joined: 12-July 11 From: Portland, Oregon Member No.: 13,308 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Why not start with a V8 conversion car? There is always one or two on ebay or craigslist for low bucks. Anything you do to it would probably be an upgrade.
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rnellums |
Aug 3 2015, 08:39 PM
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Professional Enthusiast Group: Members Posts: 1,646 Joined: 26-November 09 From: Littleton, CO Member No.: 11,072 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Go for it. You only live once. How much down time are you allocating for the build? Horsepower is addictive. I just saw a set of Pauter Rods, a set of turbo's and low compression pistons for my 3.0 and I'm thinking, "How much will an additional 400hp cost me, per hp"? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I'd better get my AC installed first. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) So I'm not the only one with these thoughts??? At least I was responsible and picked up two spare EZ30's so I can build while I drive... |
Larmo63 |
Aug 3 2015, 09:30 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
The beautiful red car with the V8 is Eddy's…..
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matthepcat |
Aug 3 2015, 10:20 PM
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Meat Popsicle Group: Members Posts: 1,462 Joined: 13-December 09 From: Saratoga CA Member No.: 11,125 Region Association: Northern California |
LS V8 and moderns transaxle... You will embarrass your son....of coarse if you want to thrash it and cost is no object ...go Mendeola transaxle. Big power means you will need big flares to fit the rubber to harness the power.
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whitetwinturbo |
Aug 3 2015, 10:55 PM
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Honey, does this wing make my ass look fat? Group: Members Posts: 1,391 Joined: 22-October 11 From: Newport Beach/Kalefornya/USA Member No.: 13,704 Region Association: Southern California |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Good BIG (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) ............
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whitetwinturbo |
Aug 3 2015, 10:56 PM
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Honey, does this wing make my ass look fat? Group: Members Posts: 1,391 Joined: 22-October 11 From: Newport Beach/Kalefornya/USA Member No.: 13,704 Region Association: Southern California |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Go BIG ... here's a little madness I'm sorting out fro PO (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) ............
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Maltese Falcon |
Aug 3 2015, 11:10 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,645 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Mulholland SoCal Member No.: 2,755 Region Association: None |
LS V8 and moderns transaxle... You will embarrass your son....of coarse if you want to thrash it and cost is no object ...go Mendeola transaxle. Big power means you will need big flares to fit the rubber to harness the power. Mendeolas are LONG transaxles; The fore/aft deflection angle of the output drive flanges on the Mendeola sequential transaxle will more than likely not enter the trailing arms of the 914 correctly. This can be solved by jogging the engine forward into the cabin. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
914werke |
Aug 4 2015, 07:49 AM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,062 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
why screw around, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
if you want a jack straight in to you adrenal gland, If you want mind blowing speed, heart stopping breaks, nimble handling potential for 200mph ...& street legal .... & show your sons Chevelle your tail buy a new generation liter class SPORT BIKE!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sunglasses.gif) |
cali914 |
Aug 4 2015, 08:23 AM
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cali914 Group: Members Posts: 447 Joined: 26-April 06 From: Berkeley Ca. Member No.: 5,934 Region Association: Northern California |
I had a 427 world small block in my 914. I beat my cousins Mercedes sl65 amg with a reentech kit on it. Your son does not stand a chance LOL, and yes as the guys are saying use the mendeola transmission, I had the Pantera but hated the shift pattern. If only they had LS back when I was running them. LS3 to be exact. HAHAHAHAH
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1stworks |
Aug 4 2015, 08:24 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 491 Joined: 31-March 13 From: colorado Member No.: 15,718 Region Association: None |
In same boat,my car has brakes,suspension, chassis stiffening. I was running a 2056 and
Got board. My choice is 5.3 l33 with boxster S 6 speed. .... I just couldn't say no :-) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1315.photobucket.com-15718-1438698283.1.jpg) |
Alapone |
Aug 4 2015, 08:35 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 105 Joined: 4-April 13 From: Nj Member No.: 15,734 Region Association: None |
ask your son if his car goes around a corner......
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914_teener |
Aug 4 2015, 08:35 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,198 Joined: 31-August 08 From: So. Cal Member No.: 9,489 Region Association: Southern California |
Go for it Forrest! I got dibs on the 2.2.
You definately are running down the slippery slope. Must have been around Larwrence.s new six last Sunday a little too long. |
iamchappy |
Aug 4 2015, 08:54 AM
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It all happens so fast! Group: Members Posts: 4,893 Joined: 5-November 03 From: minnetonka, mn Member No.: 1,315 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
930 turbo fits the car just fine, and with far less work...
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eric9144 |
Aug 4 2015, 09:36 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,734 Joined: 30-March 11 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 12,876 Region Association: Southern California |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) I need Chappy to drop a 930 motor in mine since it's far less work (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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sb914 |
Aug 4 2015, 09:43 AM
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Surf Guru Group: Members Posts: 4,302 Joined: 25-November 12 From: Brookings,Oregon Member No.: 15,191 Region Association: Southern California |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) I need Chappy to drop a 930 motor in mine since it's far less work (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) And 3x the $. But 3x the cool as well. |
Alphaogre |
Aug 4 2015, 10:10 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 460 Joined: 28-May 12 From: San Diego Member No.: 14,487 Region Association: Southern California |
I thought it would be fun to drop hayabusa motor in one with a turbo or super charger. I know they have conversion kits that buggies use, but I thought high revving, F1 sounding motor would be a blast.
They run around 200hp, and are a small low weight engine. Any one of us would be elated to be bulling 200hp out of a 914 motor! |
SirAndy |
Aug 4 2015, 11:11 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,640 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
All nightmares and antidotes welcome... Get a 3.6L engine and a set of Boxster brake calipers. All you'll ever need ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) |
forrestkhaag |
Aug 4 2015, 12:04 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 935 Joined: 21-April 14 From: Scottsdale, Arizona Member No.: 17,273 Region Association: Southwest Region |
All nightmares and antidotes welcome... Get a 3.6L engine and a set of Boxster brake calipers. All you'll ever need ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) My 993 3.6 dyno-ed at just under the spec286 HP and the torque was awesome. The simplicity of the V8 juice has its appeal and maybe Eddy can chime in but I think the side shift can be adapted to a 250 or less HP motor with a Renegade kit?? maybe... But then and LS motor would want to produce more HP and I would in turn, want more juice.... The slippery slope is more negotiable in a mid-engine car I've heard. Attached image(s) |
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