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> Best 914s of all time?, Fourteener Motoring is taking nominations
stevegm
post Aug 5 2015, 06:32 AM
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We are writing a story for the magazine about the top 914s of all time. Maybe it will be a Top 10. Maybe a Top 20. Either way we want to include the best of the best. Street. Race. Original. Whatever.

Nominations anybody?


Please include as much information as possible. If it is a 914world member's car, their username would be helpful. Anything we can use to contact the owner.
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post Aug 17 2015, 11:20 AM
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To start with, this is Cody; I figure we should make a new account for the shop itself, but since this one has some post history I'll use it for now ;-).


I might be a bit biased, but I've got to throw the Garage Karthaüser / Black Forest Racing green and orange 914-6 in the mix. It's probably the most successful yet unheard of 914 race car in history. The car was originally built into a race car by none other than Kremer Racing... you know, the multiple-LeMans-Winning-Team that built most of the 935's, the 1981 917, and many of the 962's among a series of thier own branded cars. The car was sold to Michael and Reinhold Karthaüser in early 1971 and began it's racing career doing a handful of GT races at Spa-Francorchamps and Nurburgring, but mostly ran hill climbs in Belgium and western Germany. In it's original career under Karthaüser it won at least 25 races (we have the results sheets), but we know there were more that we don't have hard record of. My father bought the car in 1988 and began racing it two weeks later. With my father driving the car it continued winning races. I'm still looking for better records, but it looks like the number will be well over 100 race wins. It even went pro-racing again in the early 2000's with a startup series called ARL where the car won a few races overall and took the inaugural championship with my father and Joe Cogbill driving and beating Randy Pobst, Michael Galotti, and other future World Challenge drivers and teams. In 2003 the car was crashed badly by a co-driver at The Walter Mitty Challenge (while leading for the record) and the wreck was put in storage for a decade. Two years ago my father decided he had been out of racing long enough and re-tubbed the car to bring it back to life. Since September of last year I have shared the car with him at a few events and won 9 out of 10 races entered (finished 3rd at Indianapolis this summer).

The Sonauto car only did well in one race, while a great achievement to finish where it did at Le Mans it did nothing else ever. The Brumos / Peter Gregg car had a way better original pro career, but was also then subjected to a mostly dormant life until it started vintage racing in the late 80's... where it was regularly beaten by our car ;-). The Automotion / Garettson car (which we maintained for 15 years) is another with one or two great years, but then it's been collecting dust since we stopped racing it in about 1992 (and before about 1987).

1971 @ Tros Marets (1st place finish securing the 1971 Hillclimb Championship)
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1975 Publicity Photoshoot for Coca-Cola whom sponsored the car for a few years:
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1976 when it was put in it's current color scheme:
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1988 St. Petersburg Grand Prix:
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About 1998 at Daytona pulling away from Hurley Haywood in Brumos' other 914-6:
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2000-ish @ Moroso (now Palm Beach International Raceway):
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2015 with me driving at Indy:
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stevegm   Best 914s of all time?   Aug 5 2015, 06:32 AM
sb914   :popcorn:   Aug 5 2015, 07:06 AM
nein14   Ok how about Evil Ed who built the CSI Turbo GT th...   Aug 5 2015, 07:16 AM
BIGKAT_83   Here you go the Kinesis 914   Aug 5 2015, 07:18 AM
Maltese Falcon   Here you go the Kinesis 914 These GUYS... Karl...   Aug 5 2015, 11:14 AM
johannes   Top what ? Value, power, originality, mileage ?   Aug 5 2015, 07:22 AM
stevegm   Top what ? Value, power, originality, mileage ? ...   Aug 5 2015, 07:31 AM
mepstein   Make sure you put Marty/ Maltese falcon on the lis...   Aug 5 2015, 07:30 AM
Maltese Falcon   Make sure you put Marty/ Maltese falcon on the li...   Aug 5 2015, 09:38 AM
iwanta914-6   I would think the 1970 LeMans 6th place overall an...   Aug 5 2015, 07:34 AM
Alphaogre   I would think the 1970 LeMans 6th place overall a...   Aug 5 2015, 10:27 AM
Chris H.   The best 914...EVER, EVER... :idea:   Aug 5 2015, 07:41 AM
mepstein   The best 914...EVER, EVER... :idea: :agree: b...   Aug 5 2015, 09:53 AM
AlanG   The best 914...EVER, EVER... :idea: :agree: ...   Aug 6 2015, 07:47 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   The best 914...EVER, EVER... :idea: How come ...   Aug 5 2015, 01:49 PM
stevegm   The best 914...EVER, EVER... :idea: How come...   Aug 5 2015, 01:53 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   [quote name='Jeff Bowlsby' post='2219203' date='A...   Aug 5 2015, 02:03 PM
iwanta914-6   Got a spare flat-8 to poke into it? This car c...   Aug 5 2015, 02:11 PM
mepstein   The best 914...EVER, EVER... :idea: How come...   Aug 5 2015, 03:49 PM
stevegm   [quote name='Jeff Bowlsby' post='2219203' date='A...   Aug 5 2015, 03:56 PM
JmuRiz   [quote name='Jeff Bowlsby' post='2219203' date='...   Aug 5 2015, 06:00 PM
stevegm   [quote name='stevegm' post='2219250' date='Aug 5 ...   Aug 5 2015, 06:04 PM
mepstein   [quote name='Jeff Bowlsby' post='2219203' date='...   Aug 6 2015, 05:10 AM
AndyB   That's an easy one the 914's made between ...   Aug 5 2015, 07:58 AM
MJHanna   The best 914...EVER, EVER... :idea: What Fuch...   Aug 5 2015, 08:11 AM
Chris Pincetich   I'd nominate the Brumos #59 race car :beer2: ...   Aug 5 2015, 08:39 AM
Cairo94507   Look like deep 6's to me. :confused:   Aug 5 2015, 08:40 AM
iwanta914-6   Is that the 914/8 at the Porsche Museum?   Aug 5 2015, 09:56 AM
Luke M   Is that the 914/8 at the Porsche Museum? Sure ...   Aug 5 2015, 11:38 AM
mepstein   Is that the 914/8 at the Porsche Museum? Yes :d...   Aug 5 2015, 01:10 PM
JmuRiz   It's one of them...the most stock looking of t...   Aug 5 2015, 10:30 AM
72 IXXIV   Yes--the '70 LeMans class winner is probably t...   Aug 5 2015, 11:21 AM
Johny Blackstain   I think these would be the top 5:   Aug 5 2015, 11:58 AM
stevegm   I think these would be the top 5: I tend to ag...   Aug 5 2015, 01:40 PM
iwanta914-6   I'll be in Munich (for Oktoberfest) in a littl...   Aug 5 2015, 01:20 PM
matthepcat   I'll be in Munich (for Oktoberfest) in a litt...   Aug 5 2015, 03:25 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   Here are three more to consider:   Aug 5 2015, 01:44 PM
stevegm   Here are three more to consider: Thanks. Can y...   Aug 5 2015, 01:50 PM
JmuRiz   Even w/o the flat 8, it's a good looking car: ...   Aug 5 2015, 02:07 PM
eric9144   The #2 car from the set of three marathon cars was...   Aug 5 2015, 02:26 PM
warpig   Can you wait a couple of years for this? :confuse...   Aug 5 2015, 03:13 PM
thieuster   Nice suggestions! It should be a Top 14, off c...   Aug 5 2015, 03:42 PM
stevegm   Nice suggestions! It should be a Top 14, off ...   Aug 5 2015, 03:58 PM
Johny Blackstain   I don't know if this teener is worthy, but tha...   Aug 5 2015, 04:08 PM
Alphaogre   I have been for fortunate enough to see that one r...   Aug 5 2015, 04:31 PM
Rand   As far as street cars go, I'd have to suggest ...   Aug 5 2015, 04:45 PM
stevegm   As far as street cars go, I'd have to suggest...   Aug 5 2015, 04:50 PM
URY914   There are only 2 914's that have been class ch...   Aug 5 2015, 06:46 PM
MoveQik   I agree with others....you have to include the /8...   Aug 5 2015, 06:55 PM
dlkawashima   The one that's now at Canepa ... http://www.9...   Aug 5 2015, 07:34 PM
72 IXXIV   I thought that the 914-8 had double headlights...   Aug 5 2015, 10:42 PM
mepstein   I thought that the 914-8 had double headlights......   Aug 6 2015, 05:07 AM
KELTY360   I'd nominate the humble little '73 1.7 nam...   Aug 5 2015, 11:47 PM
Kansas 914   I'd nominate the humble little '73 1.7 na...   Aug 6 2015, 10:42 AM
Kansas 914   I would further nominate The Alien completed and d...   Aug 6 2015, 05:15 PM
Stacks914   I have been for fortunate enough to see that one ...   Aug 6 2015, 12:06 AM
RobW   This one is pretty special given point A to point ...   Aug 6 2015, 04:35 AM
mepstein   This one is pretty special given point A to point...   Aug 6 2015, 05:05 AM
Cairo94507   Limiting it to the top 10 maybe tough....   Aug 6 2015, 06:49 AM
URY914   The Altec Lancing car is nice and very well known ...   Aug 6 2015, 04:37 AM
jt914-6   I think the top 914 in my mind was the #40 Le Mans...   Aug 6 2015, 04:53 AM
Cairo94507   Paul's car is a definite candidate: http://www...   Aug 6 2015, 06:44 AM
Cairo94507   SoCalAndy's car is another top candidate.   Aug 6 2015, 06:44 AM
tp_reading   I think I might be in with a shout ! I am...   Aug 6 2015, 07:47 AM
iamchappy   :first:   Aug 6 2015, 08:12 AM
StratPlayer   Chappy that is one beautiful car.... :beer2:   Aug 6 2015, 09:42 AM
Andyrew   If you delve into conversions then I suggest grabb...   Aug 6 2015, 09:47 AM
iwanta914-6   Since they are both from MN and have some spectacu...   Aug 6 2015, 05:25 PM
Porschef   Since they are both from MN and have some spectac...   Aug 6 2015, 07:10 PM
RobW   Too 5 is definitely not enough.   Aug 6 2015, 07:41 PM
stevegm   We are thinking Top 14. The best, of the best, coo...   Aug 6 2015, 07:48 PM
Cal   GINTHER RACING PORSCHE 914-4   Aug 6 2015, 08:04 PM
Kansas 914   GINTHER RACING PORSCHE 914-4 :agree: I was go...   Aug 6 2015, 08:07 PM
Johny Blackstain   Any 914 that get a scale model produced needs to ...   Aug 8 2015, 04:53 PM
Kansas 914   Any 914 that get a scale model produced needs to...   Aug 8 2015, 05:27 PM
914_teener   GINTHER RACING PORSCHE 914-4 :agree: I saw th...   Aug 6 2015, 10:33 PM
mepstein   GINTHER RACING PORSCHE 914-4 I'd like to do ...   Aug 8 2015, 08:25 PM
Cal   Troutman 914-6 GT Pick-Up Truck   Aug 6 2015, 08:13 PM
stevegm   Troutman 914-6 GT Pick-Up Truck I saw it at Am...   Aug 8 2015, 04:43 PM
boxstr   Blackula   Aug 6 2015, 08:15 PM
Cal   1972 Porsche 916 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q9...   Aug 6 2015, 08:57 PM
URY914   The World's Lightest! :)   Aug 7 2015, 04:30 AM
ripper911   The World's Lightest! :) We'll need...   Aug 8 2015, 04:53 PM
URY914   The World's Lightest! :) We'll nee...   Aug 8 2015, 08:15 PM
jt914-6   I'm not nominating my 914-6 3.0RS conversion, ...   Aug 7 2015, 05:03 AM
rick 918-S   Too many ways to address the best of all time. The...   Aug 9 2015, 08:14 AM
RobW   :agree: :agree: Too many cars, too many categor...   Aug 9 2015, 08:39 AM
stevegm   "Best of" stories are always fraught wit...   Aug 9 2015, 08:51 AM
Kansas 914   "Best of" stories are always drought wi...   Aug 9 2015, 08:54 AM
stevegm   Please keep nominating cars. We decided to split ...   Aug 10 2015, 06:11 PM
TJB/914   Please keep nominating cars. We decided to split...   Aug 10 2015, 06:42 PM
stevegm   Please keep nominating cars. We decided to spli...   Aug 10 2015, 06:49 PM
HAM Inc   The Wayne Baker 914/4 IMSA GTU that won at Sear Po...   Aug 10 2015, 08:14 PM
VegasRacer   Max Moritz.   Aug 10 2015, 11:00 PM
dlkawashima   First production 914-6 ... http://www.914world.com...   Aug 11 2015, 09:18 AM
URY914   This is getting stupid. How about most rusted 914...   Aug 11 2015, 06:44 PM
dlkawashima   ... everyone will flame your list and it will kee...   Aug 11 2015, 06:52 PM
JohnBFR   To start with, this is Cody; I figure we should ma...   Aug 17 2015, 11:20 AM
JmuRiz   Welcome, and cool info on that car. I love the ori...   Aug 17 2015, 12:27 PM
JohnBFR   Welcome, and cool info on that car. I love the or...   Aug 17 2015, 12:57 PM
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