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1.7 a gas sipper?, Is there really a difference?

bd1308	Feb 28 2005, 05:16 PM Post #1
Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501	are the 1.7s really pokey or what? Is it worth the gas savings?

redshift	Feb 28 2005, 05:20 PM Post #2
Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869	An injected 2.0 gets twice as far on a tank as a carbed 1.7. that needs a valve adjustment. A carbed 1.7 is no better than a 67 vette being driven carefully. M

ArtechnikA	Feb 28 2005, 05:20 PM Post #3
rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None	i had a 1,7 and it was quick enough when driven well. the displacement is down a bit but it also had the highest compression out of the box of any 914. as a result of its "orphan stepchild" status they are often available at relative discount prices. and you can always go bigger - or 6 - or V8 - or whatever - later. and they can be very efficient. if you have a lot of distance driving to do - well - it's $2/gal pretty much everywhere, and it all adds up ...

Bleyseng	Feb 28 2005, 05:26 PM Post #4
Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest	A running 1.7 with FI gets about 30+ mpg and has about 80hp. If Miles is driving it gets about 15 mpg. A good running 2.0L with FI gets about 25+ mpg and has about 95hp. If Miles is driving it gets about 5mpg. Geoff (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/driving-girl.gif)

bd1308	Feb 28 2005, 05:32 PM Post #5
Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501	yeah i was looking at engine prices....they are runnign fairly cheap. my tired 2.0 for a new 1.7 sounds like a good deal....and i could just adjust my MPS and get a new computer, or just keep all my 2.0 stuff and buy a computer and MPS caibrated for 1.7

redshift	Feb 28 2005, 05:33 PM Post #6
Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869	no... no no no no no... If I use the gas that came in my car, I get 4009 miles per engine.. Hey Geoff, is that Karl by your name? M

Root_Werks

Feb 28 2005, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE (bd1308 @ Feb 28 2005, 03:32 PM)

yeah i was looking at engine prices....they are runnign fairly cheap. my tired 2.0 for a new 1.7 sounds like a good deal....and i could just adjust my MPS and get a new computer, or just keep all my 2.0 stuff and buy a computer and MPS caibrated for 1.7

I am going to have a 1.7 FI for sale soon. Rebuilt top end by a local Porsche shop. Doesn't even have 300 miles on it yet. Super clean. You get brain, fires up and runs like new. $300 it's yours. Sorry for the plug. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/slap.gif)

bd1308	Feb 28 2005, 05:45 PM Post #8
Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501	i just have to find a way to get that to me.....a 1.7 that runs very well is WAY better than a 2.0 that runs so-so. i'm tired of worrying. I just want to get in and drive. You know? Just my opinion

Type 4	Feb 28 2005, 05:45 PM Post #9
Member Group: Members Posts: 412 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Costa Mesa Calif. Member No.: 2,866	Roots has got a Great deal. That is perfect for a fellow to get his car on the road and driving. The Shipping will cost about $250 but If you check it out you may get it Cheaper.

redshift	Feb 28 2005, 05:46 PM Post #10
Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869	Yeah, if you don't buy that, I will, and raise the price when you do want it. I'm like that! M

bd1308	Feb 28 2005, 05:50 PM Post #11
Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501	YEA!!! just want to get in and go (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/burnout.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

Bleyseng	Feb 28 2005, 06:13 PM Post #12
Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest	Dan, offer it to the guy in Spain who is resto ing a 1.7 car!

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Feb 28 2005, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE (Root_Werks @ Feb 28 2005, 03:38 PM)

QUOTE (bd1308 @ Feb 28 2005, 03:32 PM)

yeah i was looking at engine prices....they are runnign fairly cheap. my tired 2.0 for a new 1.7 sounds like a good deal....and i could just adjust my MPS and get a new computer, or just keep all my 2.0 stuff and buy a computer and MPS caibrated for 1.7

I am going to have a 1.7 FI for sale soon. Rebuilt top end by a local Porsche shop. Doesn't even have 300 miles on it yet. Super clean. You get brain, fires up and runs like new. $300 it's yours. Sorry for the plug. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/slap.gif)

So dan you decided to /6 the orange car rather that Blackie? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif)

r_towle	Feb 28 2005, 06:22 PM Post #14
Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,571 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States	I have a 1.7... It runs great, it is a tank of a motor... Think about it....the heads have the most meat (no cracks) The cylinders have the thickest walls.... I love the motor, and when i replace it with a 2.4 I will miss it...it starts every time, burns about 1 quart a year...no drips (I fixed all of them) Other than that...I can have alot of fun daily driving it and never ever worry about the motor.... There is a guy here in MA that turbos 1.7 liter motors....never even open them up....whn they die, he just put another one in....they are cheap and simple, plenty of power to have alot of fun..... Just take a 72 VW bus for a ride....then take the 914 for a ride....the 914 1.7 will seem like light speed compared to the bus Rich

bd1308	Feb 28 2005, 06:24 PM Post #15
Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501	sweet

Flat VW	Feb 28 2005, 07:06 PM Post #16
Illegal Soapbox Derby Racecar Group: Members Posts: 1,692 Joined: 13-November 04 From: Phoenix, AZ Member No.: 3,105	I have a 1.7L (as one can see below). It is a gas sipper without a doubt. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) My odometer does not work, my speedometer does not work but the"low fuel idiot light" operates. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/mueba.gif) On the "backroads" I like to drive here in Arizona, one can easily find themselves 100 miles from the nearest gas station, so I do have a good idea of my fuel usage. That "idiot light" would not help much so far out into the desert here. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/stones.gif) That being said (well, typed, really), one can get 30 miles to the gallon without even trying, 35 mpg on the interstate if it is fairly flat, although I avoid interstate highways whenever possible (["all you see on the interstate is interstate"] from the movie Planes, Trains and Automobiles). (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/slap.gif) I believe the "low power" of the 1.7L has made me, perhaps, a better driver. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/driving.gif) One must be in the correct gear at the correct time to use the "power band" of this "little" motor. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) I just saw an ad for a new (read here expensive) "hybrid" car touting "THIRTY MILES TO THE GALLON, CITY". Not really a "breakthrough", I think. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif) John

bd1308	Feb 28 2005, 07:09 PM Post #17
Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501	YEAH!!!! i like what I am hearing....

bondo	Feb 28 2005, 07:17 PM Post #18
Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California	Do it.. it's nice having an engine that won't overheat and just keeps running. There's enough power there. As far as I know the computers are different. Don't mess with your MPS, adjusting those never works out and 1.7 ones can be had cheap. check part numbers and make sure all your FI parts are compatible. Oh, injectors are different too.

Brando	Feb 28 2005, 08:42 PM Post #19
BUY MY SPARE KIDNEY!!! Group: Members Posts: 3,935 Joined: 29-August 04 From: Santa Ana, CA Member No.: 2,648 Region Association: Southern California	the 1,7 is anemic. Slits told me it's got the best compression out of all years (stock) but least displacement. It should be fine if you know how to shift (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) Hell, even my 1,8 can scoot if you drive it right. I don't see why the same can't be said for a 1,7. Just don't go with dual 40 or 44 IDFs if it's got a stock (FI) cam in there.

bd1308	Feb 28 2005, 11:44 PM Post #20
Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501	i just hope I can find a cheap way to get the engine from dan root. And i hope I can come up with $300 in cash to give to him.

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