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post Aug 20 2015, 08:17 PM
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I took out my '76 and while driving I could tell there was some additional drag when I depressed the clutch pedal. I pulled over and felt the wheels, and found the driver's side rear was much warmer than the other three. So, after filling with E-free gas, I drove home and put her up on blocks.

I took the rear wheels off first, and found the driver's side rotor and caliper were essentially seized - I couldn't turn the rotor at all. Since the car is almost 40 years old, and in terrific condition otherwise, I placed an order with PMB Performance for a complete brake replacement.

I started by cleaning the wheel wells that had decades of dirt. Here is what the rear looked like:


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post Aug 20 2015, 08:26 PM
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that wheel arch is amazingly clean!
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post Aug 20 2015, 08:41 PM
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The other side.
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I used some of Eastwood's Chassis Black paint to touch up the trailing arms.

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I stripped the paint off the rotor guards using paint stripper followed by a 3M paint removing disc in my drill, and finally a brass wire wheel on the drill.

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post Aug 20 2015, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE(relentless @ Aug 20 2015, 07:41 PM) *

The other side.
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I used some of Eastwood's Chassis Black paint to touch up the trailing arms.

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I stripped the paint off the rotor guards using paint stripper followed by a 3M paint removing disc in my drill, and finally a brass wire wheel on the drill.

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New rotors really set it off. Just wait until the new brake lines and Eric's calipers are added!

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post Aug 20 2015, 08:55 PM
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Strange, I'm getting redundant pix and not in the order I want. I will continue this thread after I find out what is going on.

Very strange; I checked the name of the pictures on 914World and they don't match the names of the same pictures on my computer. I have rebooted the computer to see if that clears up the glitch.
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post Aug 21 2015, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(relentless @ Aug 20 2015, 07:55 PM) *

Strange, I'm getting redundant pix and not in the order I want. I will continue this thread after I find out what is going on.

Very strange; I checked the name of the pictures on 914World and they don't match the names of the same pictures on my computer. I have rebooted the computer to see if that clears up the glitch.
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Let's try this again. Here is the disc brake guard with some paint remover helping take off the paint.

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post Aug 21 2015, 01:46 PM
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The disc guards were powdercoated mirror black.

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I even powdercoated the mounting bolts and washers, as they were getting pretty oxidized.

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post Aug 21 2015, 01:57 PM
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The same steps were used for the front of the car.

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post Aug 21 2015, 03:34 PM
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Nice work. That is the way to keep these cars looking and performing as they should.
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post Aug 21 2015, 06:58 PM
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Thanks Cairo94507. Today I took delivery of the rear calipers and hard lines for the rear - Thanks Eric at PMB! I only need the new front hard lines to complete the brake rebuild.

Today I heated the front rotors up to about 300 degrees and had the front wheel bearing races in the freezer overnight. I found two sockets that were just under the OD of the races, and once the rotors were heated up I dropped the bearing races in and tapped them down and seated them. The heating of the rotors and freezing of the races will gain you several thousandths of clearance when installing them. I also measured with my vernier to ensure the races were seated and matched the rotors I removed.

After packing the bearings with wheel bearing grease and installing the inner seal, the rotors were installed. The locking nut was adjusted to have zero clearance, but the rotor spun easily. I had some difficulty putting the bearing cap back on. I looked around and found a piece of pipe that fit the outer flange on the cap, and was able to pound it on. Here is a picture of how it turned out.

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Here it is with the new re-manufactured caliper from PMB:

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You can see the original caliper to the bottom left. Once the new hard line and rubber line are installed this corner will be ready for a bleed job and ready for another 40 years of cruising!
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post Sep 22 2015, 01:32 PM
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Here is the Eastwood vacuum device I used to bleed the calipers. I have put a section of clear 3/16" ID clear vinyl tubing from the reservoir and attach it to the bleeder valve. After pumping the hand actuated lever six times or so I crack the bleeder valve open a quarter turn and keep pumping. I could see the air and old fluid being drawn out.


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post Sep 22 2015, 01:49 PM
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I kept drawing out old brake fluid and topping the car's brake fluid reservoir up with the DOT 4 fluid I purchased from PMB. I like the Eastwood brake bleeder's vacuum gauge as it ensured I had good vacuum while I did this operation.

Once I was satisfied that I had new clean fluid coming out I used the technique on the PMB tech page to ensure I had all the air out of the lines. I put a 7mm spanner on the bleed valve first. Then I taped another section of the clear 3/16" ID vinyl line to the car in several places and ran the line to the bleed valve. Be sure the line extends higher than the car's brake fluid reservoir! I cracked the valve open and watched while the fluid rose in the line until it reached the height of the car's fluid reservoir. I used a rubber mallet to tap on the new caliper to ensure any air trapped in the caliper would be released.

I was happy to see there were no air bubbles rising in the vinyl line and once I had verified that I had the air out of the line I closed the bleed valve and after draining the fluid in the vinyl line moved on to the driver's side rear caliper. Same procedure for the front, starting on the passenger's side and finishing on the driver's side.

A couple other notes: I taped over the caliper to ensure no brake fluid could drip onto the new pads. I also used a lot of paper towels stuffed below the bleed valve so any fluid that might weep from the threads of the bleed valve would be sopped up. Be careful that you don't get any brake fluid on your paint - brake fluid will eat paint!


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post Sep 22 2015, 05:36 PM
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I don't care about the brake job, I want to know how you cleaned the wheel well - just kidding!

Thanks for posting this, since I'm in the process of doing the same right now.

One question, you mentioned that you have adjusted the front wheel bearing to zero play.

I thought it should be adjusted to zero and than backed out by a 1/4 turn to allow for some heat expansion of the metal.

Not correcting but rather a curious questions.

Thanks and keep up the good work.
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post Sep 22 2015, 06:09 PM
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Thank you for posting. Always learn something from our members.
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post Sep 22 2015, 06:58 PM
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You really did a great job!
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post Sep 29 2015, 10:47 AM
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Here's what the workshop manual says about adjusting the front wheel bearings:

Watch out for correct adjustment of wheel bearing.

a. Tighten clamping nut slightly (approx. 1.5 mkp = 11 ft. lbs) while turning the wheel or hub, so that the taper rollers can rest well against the bearing races.

b. Loosen clamping nut until the nose washer can be just pushed along from the side with a screw driver and no noticeable bearing play is indicated during axial movements of the wheel hub. Caution! Do not support screw driver against hub but hold freely in hand.

c. Tighten cheesehead screw of clamping nut to specified tightening torque. Check adjustment once again by moving nose washer and without turning clamping nut, and correct, if required. Caution! The slot width of the clamping nut should be 2.5 + 0.5 mm (.1 + .02”) so that perfect clamping is obtained even under unfavorable tolerance overlaps.

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Looks great!

What brand/color/type of paint did you use to paint the Rotors/Disc's?
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QUOTE(relentless @ Sep 29 2015, 09:47 AM) *

Here's what the workshop manual says about adjusting the front wheel bearings:

Watch out for correct adjustment of wheel bearing.

a. Tighten clamping nut slightly (approx. 1.5 mkp = 11 ft. lbs) while turning the wheel or hub, so that the taper rollers can rest well against the bearing races.

b. Loosen clamping nut until the nose washer can be just pushed along from the side with a screw driver and no noticeable bearing play is indicated during axial movements of the wheel hub. Caution! Do not support screw driver against hub but hold freely in hand.

c. Tighten cheesehead screw of clamping nut to specified tightening torque. Check adjustment once again by moving nose washer and without turning clamping nut, and correct, if required. Caution! The slot width of the clamping nut should be 2.5 + 0.5 mm (.1 + .02”) so that perfect clamping is obtained even under unfavorable tolerance overlaps.


d. Drive the car for a few miles, then recheck torque on front bearings. They will usually loosen slightly after "break-in"
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