Need 2 Aluminum tubes butt welded, any referals? Pic's added |
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Need 2 Aluminum tubes butt welded, any referals? Pic's added |
76-914 |
Sep 14 2015, 09:11 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,495 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
I need to have two AC fittings welded together. Does anyone have a referral. I can ship to the welder so they don't need to be local but close would be nice (SoCal). TIA, Kent
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zipedadoo |
Sep 14 2015, 09:14 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 135 Joined: 23-January 14 From: Arizona Member No.: 16,921 Region Association: None |
I know of a company in Arizona that can do it. AAPAK Phone# 1-602-254-1116
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stugray |
Sep 14 2015, 11:13 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,824 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
You know you can solder aluminum?
Are they truly butt joints? No male/female slip like copper fittings? If butt is the only option, then I wouldn't trust the solder but thought I'd mention it. |
TheCabinetmaker |
Sep 14 2015, 11:39 AM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,300 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
My body man that just painted my car builds custom cars from aluminum. Any competent welder should be able to do it. Call mikes welding in temecula.
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Tom_T |
Sep 14 2015, 12:56 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
My body man that just painted my car builds custom cars from aluminum. Any competent welder should be able to do it. Call mikes welding in temecula. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) It just needs to be TIG welding with Alum. Many exhaust shops & hot rod welders out there should be able to do it for you Kent. Jeesh, ole Curt knows folks everywhere! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) BTW - Soldering Alum won't be a great structural member, if that's what you're using it for. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// |
scotty b |
Sep 14 2015, 01:40 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
My body man that just painted my car builds custom cars from aluminum. Any competent welder should be able to do it. Call mikes welding in temecula. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) BTW - Soldering Alum won't be a great structural member, if that's what you're using it for. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// "I need to have two AC fittings welded together" R.I.F. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
stugray |
Sep 14 2015, 01:51 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,824 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
Understood, BUT if it is an AC (Air conditioning fitting) then it should be a male female slip joint not a butt weld. If that was the case, then soldering for AC is the accepted method. Reading does not help if you don't have all the facts. (where's the Psychic emoticon?) So from now on, if I don't get enough facts to provide a useful answer I will just ignore the question....(IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) And did I not condition my response with "If butt is the only option, then I wouldn't trust the solder but thought I'd mention it." |
r_towle |
Sep 14 2015, 01:56 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
What does that mean? Rest in freon? R u insanely fubar? |
stugray |
Sep 14 2015, 02:59 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,824 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
What does that mean? Rest in freon? R u insanely fubar? Rest In Farts (it's a fetish thing :-)... R.I.F. Reading is Fundamental - Similar to RTFM |
Andyrew |
Sep 14 2015, 03:06 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Find a hot rod shop in town and ask if they can tig aluminum or call a radiator shop. All of them should be able to weld aluminum.
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76-914 |
Sep 14 2015, 07:16 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,495 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
One will be butt welded the other is a shoulder bead. Here are some pic's. I should have done this before. Rich, I need to double check if that is one that I called here already. One was a structural aluminum welding co that wasn't interested and another didn't return the call. I can easily mail these to the right guy.
I want these 2 pieces To end up like this. Easy to read match lines on all the pieces. And these 2 to become this. TIA |
craig downs |
Sep 14 2015, 07:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 768 Joined: 25-November 05 From: mira loma ca. Member No.: 5,189 Region Association: Southern California |
I have a tig welder and could do that for you. I'm about 40 minutes north from you. I live in Eastvale.
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toolguy |
Sep 14 2015, 07:23 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,267 Joined: 2-April 11 From: San Diego / El Cajon Member No.: 12,889 Region Association: Southern California |
Straight tig welding will product slag on the inside.
I'd suggest you machine an aluminum sleeve that slides into both pieces, then leave a 1/8 inch gap between the two and tig the gap. . See Dustin at AJ Sandcars in El Cajon. he can do it while you wait if you have the sleeve ready. . call for an appointment first. . The him Uncle Dave sent you. . |
craig downs |
Sep 14 2015, 07:25 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 768 Joined: 25-November 05 From: mira loma ca. Member No.: 5,189 Region Association: Southern California |
Just what I was thinking
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76-914 |
Sep 14 2015, 09:12 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,495 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
Straight tig welding will product slag on the inside. I'd suggest you machine an aluminum sleeve that slides into both pieces, then leave a 1/8 inch gap between the two and tig the gap. . See Dustin at AJ Sandcars in El Cajon. he can do it while you wait if you have the sleeve ready. . call for an appointment first. . The him Uncle Dave sent you. . Sage advice and one I would have surely missed. I'll give Dustin a call Uncle Dave. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Is this what you are talking about, Dave? |
toolguy |
Sep 14 2015, 09:25 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,267 Joined: 2-April 11 From: San Diego / El Cajon Member No.: 12,889 Region Association: Southern California |
Bingo. . . Dustin is magical on tigging alum. .
here is his website. . http://www.agsandcars.com/ Address: 244 Denny Way, El Cajon, CA 92020 Phone:(619) 449-8308 |
stugray |
Sep 14 2015, 11:33 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,824 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
Now see! with those two pictures I say I could solder them both.
However if you want it done right, tig is the way to go! And I know with really high end welding, you minimize the porosity & slag on the inside by purging the tube as you weld. |
Mark Henry |
Sep 14 2015, 11:38 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Now see! with those two pictures I say I could solder them both. However if you want it done right, tig is the way to go! And I know with really high end welding, you minimize the porosity & slag on the inside by purging the tube as you weld. Looking at a stock 911 cooler I'd say the inlet tube is soldered from the factory. Doesn't look welded. |
jd74914 |
Sep 15 2015, 06:26 AM
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Its alive Group: Members Posts: 4,780 Joined: 16-February 04 From: CT Member No.: 1,659 Region Association: North East States |
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bretth |
Sep 15 2015, 06:53 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 899 Joined: 23-June 15 From: Central TX Member No.: 18,882 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Definitely make sure it is welded by someone who really knows what they are doing. I had to customize an A/C system to put into a 70's Dodge that I was restoring years ago. I painstakingly measured/cut and got everything set up perfect and then brought the 2 pieces to be butt welded together before having the A/C lines crimped into place. Brought it to an old "experienced" welder advertised in town. There was just enough weld porosity that it took about a month before enough refrigerant leaked out to stop blowing cold. Couldn't even see the hole but a drop of water in the spot would show the tiniest of bubbles escaping.
Brett |
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