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The plenum, What's under there? |
Porschef |
Sep 15 2015, 07:01 PM
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How you doin' Group: Members Posts: 2,165 Joined: 7-September 10 From: LawnGuyland Member No.: 12,152 Region Association: North East States |
Drove the car to work today and it's running very well. When I got home I wanted to check a couple things. Don't know why I did it, but the last thing was to spray some carb cleaner around to check for vacuum leaks. When I sprayed some under the plenum, she almost stalled out. Sumbitch! I thought I'd found all the vacuum leaks.
Question is, what's under the plenum that might allow it to suck air? Could there be a crack? Great, gives me another excuse to wrench on the car. Also should allow me to lean it out a bit more at the AFM. It's L-jet, btw. Any ideas? |
76-914 |
Sep 15 2015, 08:36 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,495 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
Absotootly! It's just a metal box and they do rot out. Pull it and check. Easy, peasy.
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r_towle |
Sep 15 2015, 08:41 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Aliens
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rick 918-S |
Sep 15 2015, 08:48 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,443 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
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r_towle |
Sep 15 2015, 08:49 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Don't believe him, he was assimilated long ago (IMG:style_emoticons/default/assimilate.gif)
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boxsterfan |
Sep 15 2015, 09:19 PM
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914's are kewl Group: Members Posts: 1,776 Joined: 6-June 03 From: San Ramon, CA Member No.: 791 Region Association: Northern California |
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McMark |
Sep 15 2015, 09:22 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Yup, seen plenty of rusted out plenums.
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Porschef |
Sep 16 2015, 04:14 AM
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How you doin' Group: Members Posts: 2,165 Joined: 7-September 10 From: LawnGuyland Member No.: 12,152 Region Association: North East States |
Thanks gents, that'll give me plenum to do this Saturday; I'll watch for both aliens and rust... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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Porschef |
Sep 17 2015, 05:50 PM
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How you doin' Group: Members Posts: 2,165 Joined: 7-September 10 From: LawnGuyland Member No.: 12,152 Region Association: North East States |
Looks fine. I don't know what was making it almost want to stall with carb cleaner but I'll go through everything again (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
At least I can clean up the compartment a bit. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) |
914_teener |
Sep 17 2015, 06:27 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,197 Joined: 31-August 08 From: So. Cal Member No.: 9,489 Region Association: Southern California |
Looks fine. I don't know what was making it almost want to stall with carb cleaner but I'll go through everything again (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) At least I can clean up the compartment a bit. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) How did you check it? |
Mike Bellis |
Sep 17 2015, 07:14 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,345 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
Run some green locktite across the welded seam. The green stuff is penetration grade and will seal any minor leaks in the weld.
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76-914 |
Sep 17 2015, 07:19 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,495 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
water or air test it.
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Porschef |
Sep 18 2015, 04:17 AM
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How you doin' Group: Members Posts: 2,165 Joined: 7-September 10 From: LawnGuyland Member No.: 12,152 Region Association: North East States |
Thanks guys. Mike, I thought about using RTV or some such but the green Loctite sounds like a great tip. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)
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falcor75 |
Sep 18 2015, 04:23 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,579 Joined: 22-November 12 From: Sweden Member No.: 15,176 Region Association: Scandinavia |
Check the gasket between the plenum and throttle body?
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Porschef |
Sep 18 2015, 05:53 AM
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How you doin' Group: Members Posts: 2,165 Joined: 7-September 10 From: LawnGuyland Member No.: 12,152 Region Association: North East States |
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EdwardBlume |
Sep 18 2015, 06:37 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California |
Make sure you have your accelerator pedal stop intact and adjusted to stop the cable from over torquing the plenum.
I went through 2 plenums the hard way on my /4 AX car before figuring this out. |
Porschef |
Sep 18 2015, 10:40 AM
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How you doin' Group: Members Posts: 2,165 Joined: 7-September 10 From: LawnGuyland Member No.: 12,152 Region Association: North East States |
Rob, had your's split at the seam underneath?
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Porschef |
Sep 18 2015, 10:42 AM
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How you doin' Group: Members Posts: 2,165 Joined: 7-September 10 From: LawnGuyland Member No.: 12,152 Region Association: North East States |
Double post
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SirAndy |
Sep 18 2015, 12:12 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,625 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Check the trough-tubes on the plenum. Almost all cracks i have seen where around those tubes and they can be somewhat hard to spot.
A pressure or water test will show ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) EDIT: Oh, wait, this isn't a 2.0L? Nevermind then ... |
EdwardBlume |
Sep 18 2015, 01:52 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California |
Like Andy said. The plenum gets torqued by the throttle cable extended farther than the mount can go. The whole plenum contorts and lets in air. More structurally than the seams.
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