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> LED Headlights: Turning on the fogs turns on the high beams, too!, New behavior, fogs worked normally until LED headlights installed.
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post Sep 20 2015, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(john77 @ Sep 20 2015, 08:11 PM) *

Are you sure it doesn't already have the JWest fog light module? My car has it and I have the GE nighthawks too. Once I plugged the nighthawks in my lights started doing all sorts of crazy things. If I turn the fogs on the fogs don't come on but it switches the nighthawks to high beams. I just stopped using my fogs, and as soon as I get around to it I plan on removing the JWest module.



Interesting thought. I never tried blipping the fogs before...

But I agree, I can live without the flogs. The Nighthawks are so bright and so precision focused, I think the "dim" fogs have become superfluous! But they do look cool...

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post Sep 20 2015, 08:17 PM
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QUOTE(screenguy914 @ Sep 20 2015, 03:53 PM) *

Hi-Lo beams, headlight cover motor, running lights and fog lamps are all inter-connected at the light switch.

Hope this helps,
Sherwood


Thanks for the pics. I'm picking up ideas along the way!

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post Sep 21 2015, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE(john77 @ Sep 20 2015, 05:11 PM) *

Are you sure it doesn't already have the JWest fog light module? My car has it and I have the GE nighthawks too. Once I plugged the nighthawks in my lights started doing all sorts of crazy things. If I turn the fogs on the fogs don't come on but it switches the nighthawks to high beams. I just stopped using my fogs, and as soon as I get around to it I plan on removing the JWest module.

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Just when you thought you had found the perfect plug-n-play upgrade (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
....another endless 914 project develops (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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I have pulled the JWest fog light module and I still experience the high/low beam "issue". BUT, I love having the fog lights on as driving lights....more work to do soon!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif)
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post Sep 21 2015, 09:21 AM
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Aw man really? Have we confirmed the JWest flasher is the problem? Was getting close to ordering these...
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post Sep 21 2015, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(Chris Pincetich @ Sep 21 2015, 11:07 AM) *



I have pulled the JWest fog light module and I still experience the high/low beam "issue". BUT, I love having the fog lights on as driving lights....more work to do soon!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif)



So Chris, you have the LED headlights also?

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post Sep 21 2015, 06:24 PM
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Try this. On fuse#1 there is 2 white/blue wires (one goes to High beam light the other to the fog light relay) cut these two wires apart find out which one goes to
the High beam light ( apply battery) reconnect this to fuse#1 with a new spare wire.
Connect this wire to terminal #85 on a new relay. The Blue/white wire left over attach to a new relay terminal #30 . Connect terminals #86 and #87a together and run to ground. This fix will supply ground to the fog light relay on when the low beams headlight are on and remove it when the high beams are turn on.
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post Sep 21 2015, 07:21 PM
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QUOTE(Chris H. @ Sep 21 2015, 08:21 AM) *

Aw man really? Have we confirmed the JWest flasher is the problem? Was getting close to ordering these...


Curious about this too. I was about to order the jwest kit as well.
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post Sep 21 2015, 07:46 PM
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Try this. On fuse#1 there is 2 white/blue wires (one goes to High beam light the other to the fog light relay) cut these two wires apart find out which one goes to
the High beam light ( apply battery) reconnect this to fuse#1 with a new spare wire.
Connect this wire to terminal #85 on a new relay. The Blue/white wire left over attach to a new relay terminal #30 . Connect terminals #86 and #87a together and run to ground. This fix will supply ground to the fog light relay on when the low beams headlight are on and remove it when the high beams are turn on.


Sounds doable! I think what I really want to do is have the fog lights work whenever I pull out the fog light switch. I will never run them with the brights, I just don't want to worry about the fog lights being triggered by anything other than me pulling out the dash switch!

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post Sep 21 2015, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE(orthobiz @ Sep 21 2015, 05:46 PM) *

QUOTE(904svo @ Sep 21 2015, 08:24 PM) *

Try this. On fuse#1 there is 2 white/blue wires (one goes to High beam light the other to the fog light relay) cut these two wires apart find out which one goes to
the High beam light ( apply battery) reconnect this to fuse#1 with a new spare wire.
Connect this wire to terminal #85 on a new relay. The Blue/white wire left over attach to a new relay terminal #30 . Connect terminals #86 and #87a together and run to ground. This fix will supply ground to the fog light relay on when the low beams headlight are on and remove it when the high beams are turn on.


Sounds doable! I think what I really want to do is have the fog lights work whenever I pull out the fog light switch. I will never run them with the brights, I just don't want to worry about the fog lights being triggered by anything other than me pulling out the dash switch!

Paul


If you want that option, take the Blue/white wire and put it to ground instead of wiring it to #30 , forget about the rest of the wiring and relay.
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post Sep 21 2015, 09:03 PM
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Connect this wire to terminal #85 on a new relay. The Blue/white wire left over attach to a new relay terminal #30 .


You don't need to do that. If you want the fogs on only with the low beams, just move the "left over" white/blue wire to one of the low beam fuses. You can use a "piggyback connector" do do that relatively painlessly.

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post Sep 22 2015, 08:56 AM
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QUOTE(Chris H. @ Sep 21 2015, 08:21 AM) *

Have we confirmed the JWest flasher is the problem? Was getting close to ordering these...


NO I am NOT saying that. That module has been awesome for 5+ years. AND when I took it off, I realized I had it hooked up wrong in the first place, which may have been causing part of my problem...so, more work to do! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif)

I felt removing it was a good idea since it was time to strip down to basic wiring and work back up to the functionality I had and want. I hope to re-install the JWest module, and may buy a new one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

For some reason, I had it hooked up to 12V power on the ground wire (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
It mostly worked! I just never had high beams (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

All this wiring work started because I was installing the GE LED headlights. Got them off Amazon with double coupons (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

QUOTE(904svo @ Sep 21 2015, 05:24 PM) *

Try this. On fuse#1 there is 2 white/blue wires (one goes to High beam light the other to the fog light relay) cut these two wires apart find out which one goes to
the High beam light ( apply battery) reconnect this to fuse#1 with a new spare wire.
Connect this wire to terminal #85 on a new relay. The Blue/white wire left over attach to a new relay terminal #30 . Connect terminals #86 and #87a together and run to ground. This fix will supply ground to the fog light relay on when the low beams headlight are on and remove it when the high beams are turn on.


Ok! Thanks for posting the potential fixes (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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..........how did you get "double" coupons (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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..........how did you get "double" coupons (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Order one at a time
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post Sep 23 2015, 04:36 PM
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NO I am NOT saying that. That module has been awesome for 5+ years. AND when I took it off, I realized I had it hooked up wrong in the first place, which may have been causing part of my problem...so, more work to do! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif)

I felt removing it was a good idea since it was time to strip down to basic wiring and work back up to the functionality I had and want. I hope to re-install the JWest module, and may buy a new one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

For some reason, I had it hooked up to 12V power on the ground wire (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
It mostly worked! I just never had high beams (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

All this wiring work started because I was installing the GE LED headlights. Got them off Amazon with double coupons (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)


Ah! Got it. Makes sense. I wish I had a dime for everything I've wired incorrectly! I might still have the JWest installation instructions if it would help you. Just PM me.
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post Sep 24 2015, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(whitetwinturbo @ Sep 23 2015, 05:01 PM) *

..........how did you get "double" coupons (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Order one at a time


I made two separate orders with Amazon on the same day in the same sitting with two credit cards, just to be sneaky. Before they sent them I received an e-mail that because they were going to the same address they'd make only one shipment in one box. Got the benefit of two coupons. They don't seem to care!

I think they may be watching me type this now............LOL

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Also I am happy with an "on my honor" system. I'd like the fog lights to go on and off completely separately from any other relay or failsafe mechanism. I solemnly pledge that I will never use them with my high beams.

I know there's a way to do that...

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Just move that one wire to the relay off of the high-beam circuit, and hook it up to a constant +12V circuit. I did that, and have killed at least one battery that way. (Oops!) Maybe hook it up to a switched power circuit instead...

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researching the truck light LEDs - did this ever get resolved?
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@bdstone914 looks like this is similar to the issue we were discussing
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QUOTE(Chi-town @ Mar 28 2019, 03:19 PM) *

@bdstone914 looks like this is similar to the issue we were discussing

I think it was the No high beams you were discussing. The relay requires more load to trigger to high, the additional wire in resistors fix that. Who would think not drawing current on the headlights could be a problem.
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