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> Muellers Honda V6 914 project, Put 70 miles on this engine swap, now to drop broken motor
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post Jul 15 2018, 07:24 PM
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Your seams look really nice, mine where so full of crude, I think Hans was show Anton how to put ten pounds of seam sealer in a 2 pound space. I also took a MAP torch and heated the seam to burn out the crap. And even when I was welding them I still got stuff coming up into the weld puddle. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
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post Jul 18 2018, 10:58 PM
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Cut out the inlet and outlet holes for the cooling system.


Need to trim the valance, not sure if I need to cut the bumper or not. A few Subaru guys have not needed to cut the bumper so I might get lucky.

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post Jul 19 2018, 01:08 AM
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You have seen mine right? Air enters thru the fog grills and gets directed towards the center. I had to rivet a piece of plastic to the bumper bracket to block flow the wrong way. I also didn't cut between the holes. Cooling air volume in the sweet spot. You should be fine with what you have so far.

edit: added pics. No fogs obviously and 75 so horns under chassis.

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post Jul 19 2018, 07:26 AM
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Looking good, Mike!
Don't you just love the knock out punches? I've been wondering if I could get away without notching the bumper on my car so I'll be interested to see how your plan works out.
Take care and keep up the great work.
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post Jul 19 2018, 07:43 AM
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Great start. It's easy to cut more if you need to but that should be fine.

What's with those horns man (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ?
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post Jul 19 2018, 08:17 AM
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Mike - I forgot to ask: What size holes are those? I have some dimple dies that you're welcome to borrow, if I have the right size.
That press is looks to be the same one I have and it should work fine, again, assuming I have the right size die.
Let me know...
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post Jul 19 2018, 08:42 AM
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You'll rely on your fan more than you would otherwise but I think that it'll still be fine (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) that Honda motor runs pretty cool being all aluminum. If you shroud your exit you'll have much better flow, and ducting or shrouding your entering air would increase your flow as well.
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post Jul 19 2018, 11:09 AM
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So this engine is going to have an equivalent of, if not more , of the power and of
a 3.2? Good god, that’s gonna be a rocket.
Keep at it Mike.
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post Jul 19 2018, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE(tygaboy @ Jul 19 2018, 10:17 AM) *

Mike - I forgot to ask: What size holes are those? I have some dimple dies that you're welcome to borrow, if I have the right size.
That press is looks to be the same one I have and it should work fine, again, assuming I have the right size die.
Let me know...
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The harbor freight punch set is for pipe sizes and most dimple die sets are for tubing sizes and won’t work.
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post Jul 19 2018, 12:35 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) That being said these will work with the punches and press you have if you want to dimple dies them.
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post Jul 19 2018, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE(914forme @ Jul 19 2018, 11:35 AM) *

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) That being said these will work with the punches and press you have if you want to dimple dies them.



OUCH! Those are nice, but I don't see using them that often. Makes sense for a pro shop or someone doing a lot of that type of work.

I didn't notice until yesterday that they are pipe sized, so far that has not been a problem. I can buy used Greenlee punches on ebay or craigslist if I need a true tube diameter.
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post Jul 19 2018, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE(tygaboy @ Jul 19 2018, 10:17 AM) *

Mike - I forgot to ask: What size holes are those? I have some dimple dies that you're welcome to borrow, if I have the right size.
That press is looks to be the same one I have and it should work fine, again, assuming I have the right size die.
Let me know...
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The harbor freight punch set is for pipe sizes and most dimple die sets are for tubing sizes and won’t work.


Ah, yes, I forgot about that...
But maybe Mike did what I did and also got some tube size knock-out punches?

EDIT: Mike, you beat me to my reply. In any case, let me know if I can help w/anything.
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post Jul 19 2018, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(Mueller @ Jul 18 2018, 09:58 PM) *

Need to trim the valance, not sure if I need to cut the bumper or not. A few Subaru guys have not needed to cut the bumper so I might get lucky.

My bumper is stock. I do have the renegade valance that pushes the air up in the center. No cooling issues at all with my NA motor. I'll be shocked if I have any with my new turbo motor. I'd think what you have there is enough. Although the upper holes you added won't get much flow unless you do more to direct air up there. Those will be pretty square behind the bumper. No sure the best way to force air to them. Something from the fog light grills like Chris mentioned maybe?
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post Jul 25 2018, 07:26 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon_bump.gif) How's it going Mike? Had a chance to work on the car this week or no?
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post Jul 29 2018, 08:36 PM
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Went up to Canada for 5 days, back to working on the car once home and recovered from traveling.

Radiator going in. 1st time using my HF sheetmetal shear, works great so far.

Even broke out the Clecos

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post Jul 29 2018, 08:41 PM
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The bottom of the radiator is on rubber bushings that are on studs like the top have. To locate and stop the bottom of the radiator from moving there are 2 thru holes in the bottom shroud that are slightly larger diameter than the rubber bushings.

The blue bushings on the top I found in my junk drawer just like the bottom bushings.

Cardboard template I made, the curve matched up pretty darn good.
Now if I had them fancy Chris Baker tools....hahaha

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post Jul 29 2018, 10:29 PM
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Looking good!! Started from the bottom now your here (On your radiator build) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Thats the same way I did mine. I like that electric sheer from HF, lots of power in that cheep tool!

Are you using aluminum or steel for the shroud?
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post Jul 30 2018, 12:35 AM
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QUOTE(Andyrew @ Jul 29 2018, 09:29 PM) *

Looking good!! Started from the bottom now your here (On your radiator build) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Thats the same way I did mine. I like that electric sheer from HF, lots of power in that cheep tool!

Are you using aluminum or steel for the shroud?


.040" (I think) aluminum, should have used a little thicker. It should be okay.... if course in my mind I'm already designing it differently for a future upgrade when I repair the rust in the front trunk.
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QUOTE(Mueller @ Jul 29 2018, 11:35 PM) *

QUOTE(Andyrew @ Jul 29 2018, 09:29 PM) *

Looking good!! Started from the bottom now your here (On your radiator build) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Thats the same way I did mine. I like that electric sheer from HF, lots of power in that cheep tool!

Are you using aluminum or steel for the shroud?


.040" (I think) aluminum, should have used a little thicker. It should be okay.... if course in my mind I'm already designing it differently for a future upgrade when I repair the rust in the front trunk.

As much reinforcement as you'll use in such a small area you could go .032"-.028". FYI, Aircraft Spruce will usually cut and ship the same day. LMK if you need anything for rivet work. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Jul 30 2018, 08:00 AM
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QUOTE(Mueller @ Jul 29 2018, 07:41 PM) *

The bottom of the radiator is on rubber bushings that are on studs like the top have. To locate and stop the bottom of the radiator from moving there are 2 thru holes in the bottom shroud that are slightly larger diameter than the rubber bushings.

The blue bushings on the top I found in my junk drawer just like the bottom bushings.

Cardboard template I made, the curve matched up pretty darn good.
Now if I had them fancy Chris Baker tools....hahaha

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Hey now! No fair proving that I don't need to be such a tool whore! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Mike, your build is looking good!
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