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> Muellers Honda V6 914 project, Put 70 miles on this engine swap, now to drop broken motor
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post Jul 30 2018, 08:26 AM
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Looking good!! Started from the bottom now your here (On your radiator build) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Thats the same way I did mine. I like that electric sheer from HF, lots of power in that cheep tool!

Are you using aluminum or steel for the shroud?


.040" (I think) aluminum, should have used a little thicker. It should be okay.... if course in my mind I'm already designing it differently for a future upgrade when I repair the rust in the front trunk.


Should be fine, When you box the sides it'll be plenty strong. I used 18ga steel because I was lazy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Aug 5 2018, 10:50 PM
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Still adding the new wiring for the up front fuel pump and radiator fans.

New ECU mounted, I need to get a few higher amp relays, I was going to use a solid state relay, didn't like the spec sheet saying I may lose 1.5volts. Might run some test, we'll see.

The fuel pump and each fan will get a dedicated relay and a dedicated power fed. After I ran these wires I found a large enough and long enough wire that would be fine to replace all 3 in a cabinet. These will do for now.

Yes I know I need grommets to protect the wire covers.

I also removed the old stereo and alarm system. So far the motor cranks over when I turn the key, next will be the ECU wiring into the 914 starter circuit.

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post Aug 12 2018, 09:36 PM
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I have 914 with a running engine again!

Now to clean up the wiring and the cooling system. Then put the suspension back on.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDr4ctNF08A
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post Aug 12 2018, 10:25 PM
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WOW! That was way to quick and easy.... Congrats!!
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post Aug 12 2018, 10:47 PM
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Wow that thing runs smooth! You'll be driving it in no time.
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post Aug 13 2018, 08:53 AM
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post Aug 13 2018, 09:09 AM
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Wow - that was fast! You need to drive it over to my place and help get mine to make running noises!

Seriously, what a great milestone, Mike. Big congrats! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)
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post Aug 13 2018, 09:18 AM
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Gee Mike..you make it look easy. Sounds sweet (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)
You may start a new 914 engine swap trend.

Nice to see your car making such progress.

Job well done.

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post Aug 13 2018, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(Chris H. @ Aug 12 2018, 09:47 PM) *

Wow that thing runs smooth! You'll be driving it in no time.



Got to admit it is nice running the factory Honda ECU, still has the OBD port (have not plugged into it to see if it works or not)

If I do decide to go with an aftermarket ECU, Haltech has a plug and play unit with maps already installed for stock motors.
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post Aug 13 2018, 08:17 PM
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QUOTE(Chris H. @ Aug 12 2018, 09:47 PM) *

Wow that thing runs smooth! You'll be driving it in no time.



Got to admit it is nice running the factory Honda ECU, still has the OBD port (have not plugged into it to see if it works or not)

If I do decide to go with an aftermarket ECU, Haltech has a plug and play unit with maps already installed for stock motors.

You can go aftermarket but for an upgrade to your stock ECU it's a quick fix and it'd probably give you more power than you'd ever need with the same reliability of a stock Honda. I worked with them for years and it's a hard setup to beat! Congratulations on kickin' ass on this build!
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post Aug 18 2018, 10:35 PM
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Needed some hose adapters for 1" to 1 5/16".

Hit up Lowes and broke out the solder and propane.

Beads came out okay.

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post Aug 19 2018, 01:01 PM
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Great to see your build. I just bought a 914 (my 4th) from a forum member and I am having a shop do this same swap. I will be running a Mendeola trans and stock 3.5 just line yours. Do you think the throttle body would clear the firewall if the intake was swapped the other way? I am trying to minimize the amount of cutting in the trunk. I realize it will need a fair amount of fabrication anyway as I plan to have the rear shock towers tied together.
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post Aug 19 2018, 02:29 PM
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Congrats Mike. That is great to see
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post Aug 19 2018, 03:24 PM
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Great to see your build. I just bought a 914 (my 4th) from a forum member and I am having a shop do this same swap. I will be running a Mendeola trans and stock 3.5 just line yours. Do you think the throttle body would clear the firewall if the intake was swapped the other way? I am trying to minimize the amount of cutting in the trunk. I realize it will need a fair amount of fabrication anyway as I plan to have the rear shock towers tied together.



I bought a Marine intake manifold, have not tried it yet but it is shorter and puts the TB up near the motor "V" ($60 shipped on ebay)

This would put the TB up near the cabin firewall.

Make sure to have a build thread, would love to see a "pro" build....I'm a hack and a half (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif)

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post Aug 19 2018, 03:24 PM
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Congrats Mike. That is great to see


Thanks, won't be half as nice or clean as your conversion(s)!
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post Aug 19 2018, 04:05 PM
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That's a great idea! I will be running AC as well. Here is what I am starting with.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=331539

I needed a good builder car so I picked that up from Mike here on the forum. I have had Don in Phoenix do several engine/transaxle builds for my race cars including my Class 5 unlimited car. He is building me a Honda 3.5 and Mendeola for 12k, which is less than I can buy a 6cly Porsche motor for. His shop will also be doing the install. They put these 3.5 motors in VW busses monthly. He is an amazing builder and quite affordable compared to the CA prices.

www.donsbusbox.com is his website.

I am still debating whether or not to use the Renegade radiator system or Fab my own. I will be running Porsche 930 CVS on the mendeola and need something 28 spline on the outside. Mike has given me a bunch of great ideas and I'll be calling Patrick Motorsports to inquire about reinforced trailing arm mounts and trailing arms as well as upgraded outer CVS. I steel widebody kit is also on the list. I bought the complete classic auto air kit for a 74 914 and that will be going in with the Honda compressor as well. It's a pretty long list but we're moving on it fast so hopefully the build doesn't take too long. You are thread is giving me lots of great ideas. Keep it up. Know anyone that has driven one of these swaps before? Don can slap a low boost turbo on there making it a clean 400 hp but I really don't think I will need it. I am hoping to keep the car light which is why I did not make the jump to a LS motor.

Keep the pics coming
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post Aug 19 2018, 07:12 PM
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post Aug 19 2018, 07:35 PM
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Mike - I think you were really smart to jump ship on your original build and go with this plan. Sounds like you will have a car you can drive very shortly. A pretty build is nice but you don't see any of it when you are driving. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Aug 19 2018, 08:11 PM
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QUOTE(Mueller @ Aug 12 2018, 08:36 PM) *

I have 914 with a running engine again!

Now to clean up the wiring and the cooling system. Then put the suspension back on.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDr4ctNF08A


One month post to start! Wow. I mean that is amazing. Nice job. Have fun driving.
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post Aug 19 2018, 08:51 PM
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Those motors polish up pretty good as well. Here is a pic of my Bag with a 3.5L Honda. I got tons of compliments. It was a screamer.


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