OH CRAP!!!!, AM I SCREWED????? |
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OH CRAP!!!!, AM I SCREWED????? |
Aaron Cox |
Jun 10 2003, 05:23 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
i startmy car this morning, and i look down from the open engine lid.....blip the rpm's a few times. ..and to my HORROR, i see a broken dipstick guide channel! the little tube that holds the dipstick broke a cm above where it goes into the case! what do i do! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
PS i like the new smilies! |
TonyAKAVW |
Jun 10 2003, 05:39 PM
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That's my ride. Group: Members Posts: 2,151 Joined: 17-January 03 From: Redondo Beach, CA Member No.: 166 Region Association: None |
Make your dipstick shorter? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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scotty |
Jun 10 2003, 05:56 PM
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The Fun Never Stops Group: Members Posts: 773 Joined: 20-May 03 From: Portland. Oregon (SW) Member No.: 718 Region Association: None |
Duct tape? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/calvin.gif)
J B Weld? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) |
Mark Henry |
Jun 10 2003, 05:58 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Find a short piece of steel tube that is a tight (press) fit over the dipstick tube and splice it together.
Maybe use some lock-tight on the outside of the dipstick tube, stick it together, then cover the finished splice with a gob of silly-cone. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolling.gif) |
Aaron Cox |
Jun 10 2003, 06:03 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
am i able to replace it?...can i go buy a part from a vw place? do i have to drop the motor, split the case?
that wouls suck (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pinch.gif) |
MarkV |
Jun 10 2003, 06:06 PM
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Fear the Jack Stands Group: Members Posts: 1,493 Joined: 15-January 03 From: Sunny Tucson, AZ Member No.: 154 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(TonyAKAVW @ Jun 10 2003, 03:39 PM) Make your dipstick shorter? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) Ice water ? |
Aaron Cox |
Jun 10 2003, 06:09 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
lol, no really, van i buy a new one? how hard is it to install? i hope it soesnt involve splitting the case on my freshly rebuilt engine! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) ! i dont know how it broke
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Mark Henry |
Jun 10 2003, 06:11 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(acox914 @ Jun 10 2003, 04:03 PM) am i able to replace it?...can i go buy a part from a vw place? do i have to drop the motor, split the case? that wouls suck @$$!!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pinch.gif) Try my idea! OR Drop the engine and braze the tube back on. Mig and tig won't work and you may never get the old tube out. |
Aaron Cox |
Jun 10 2003, 06:12 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
how is it attached to the engine?
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Mark Henry |
Jun 10 2003, 06:20 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(acox914 @ Jun 10 2003, 04:12 PM) how is it attached to the engine? The tube is pressed into the case. It may as well be welded to it. |
Aaron Cox |
Jun 10 2003, 06:27 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
OHCRAP! so i am screwed...dangit..ill try your idea, brazing it sounds better tho....
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need4speed |
Jun 10 2003, 06:29 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 339 Joined: 11-April 03 From: Arroyo Grande, CA Member No.: 564 |
Any idea HTF it got broken in the first place? I think we'd all like to know how we might avoid such a hideous fate.
Personally, I'd get some solder and braze it back together. On my non-914, I don't reckon I'd have to drop my engine. Is that the case for a 914? |
seanery |
Jun 10 2003, 07:11 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,852 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
dumb question coming!
"If you braze it how do you keep the oil from igniting?" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chatsmiley.gif) |
Bleyseng |
Jun 10 2003, 07:19 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I did repair one on a friend 914 using tubing that just barely fit over the broken dipstick tube. Had to tap it on but it has lasted about 2 years so far without leaks. Much easier than junking the block.
Geoff (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_wirdgut.gif) |
Aaron Cox |
Jun 10 2003, 07:51 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuke.gif) well...bad news. took a second look, and its about flush wit the case. (gulp) ....i think it could be brazed tho. ill borrow a digi cam, and sna p a few.
sucks royally, i think it might have been a little weak from the PO <_< |
Dave Blackburn |
Jun 11 2003, 11:22 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 116 Joined: 9-April 03 From: Issaquah, Wa Member No.: 551 |
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Mike D. |
Jun 11 2003, 03:19 PM
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OK, It runs now, and pretty good too! Group: Members Posts: 1,445 Joined: 3-January 03 From: Santa Clarita, Ca Member No.: 85 Region Association: None |
That tube is just pressed down into the case about 1/2 inch or so. I one time pulled one out on accident. the end in the case has ridges to hold it in place. I just put some JB Weld on it and stuck it back in the hole. If you can get the broken piece out of the case you in good shape.
go to the junk yard and pull one out of a bus -Mike D. |
Mountain914 |
Jun 11 2003, 04:19 PM
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Too much time in thin air! Group: Members Posts: 367 Joined: 22-May 03 From: Conifer, CO Member No.: 725 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Pulling it out of the case sounds best - as you don't have much of a 'foundation'. If it doesn't pull, use a tap/die and put threads down into the remaining tube - then screw some rod down into it and 'tap' it out. Still will not come? Drill remaining material out, being careful of course. Put in new tube and flush and change oil.
Seanery - I have welded and brazed on engines while still in the car, I simply kept a trickle of water running through it from the garden hose. Not so much as to keep it so cold I couldn't work on it, but enough to prevent fires. (IMG:http://www.pinecam.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/smokey.gif) |
Bruce Allert |
Jun 11 2003, 05:19 PM
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Hellions asleep Group: Members Posts: 3,289 Joined: 19-March 03 From: Eagle Creek, Orygun Member No.: 441 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
If ya can't pull it out use some Epoxy Putty sold thru McMaster Carr. It's like JB Weld but better. It's a 2 part stick pre mixed. Cut what you want & knead it like clay till mixed. Flatten it out & wrap it around the clean tube. Clean the area on the block real good where it's gonna stick to. This stuff will even cure under water and stops leaks. It gets so hard you can drill & tap it. I use it a lot in our shop... it's indespensable.
Oh ya, the product # at www.mcmastercarr.com is 7531A11 . Put it in the search and it'll come up. Some FLAPS sell it too. bruce |
Aaron Cox |
Jun 12 2003, 10:45 AM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(Mike D. @ Jun 11 2003, 01:19 PM) That tube is just pressed down into the case about 1/2 inch or so. I one time pulled one out on accident. the end in the case has ridges to hold it in place. I just put some JB Weld on it and stuck it back in the hole. If you can get the broken piece out of the case you in good shape. go to the junk yard and pull one out of a bus -Mike D. buses dont have the same dipstick i thought....i thought they had the part of the block drilled for the oil filler and dipstick....i must be wrong |
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