what size 2.0 can ya build with webber ICT 34's carbs, need building specs... |
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what size 2.0 can ya build with webber ICT 34's carbs, need building specs... |
flmont |
Oct 11 2015, 03:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 879 Joined: 21-October 08 From: Tucson,Az Member No.: 9,676 Region Association: Southwest Region |
being that I don't want to go crazy on my 2.0 build,..whats the largest CC's I can go..using my old parts..standard carbed 2.0 would like to build 2056 or next size larger...if possible...??? Thanks....Frank
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rhodyguy |
Oct 11 2015, 07:15 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,080 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Weber IDF. 40mm would work. 44 IDF with 32mm Venturi, appropriate jetting. DO NOT buy a "new" weber package! You would be better off buying the cleanest, used set of Italian or Spanish ones you can source and either rebuild them yourself or hire a pro to do the job. Dellortos are a good option also.
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mepstein |
Oct 11 2015, 07:22 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,272 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Weber IDF. 40mm would work. 44 IDF with 32mm Venturi, appropriate jetting. DO NOT buy a "new" weber package! You would be better off buying the cleanest, used set of Italian or Spanish ones you can source and either rebuild them yourself or hire a pro to do the job. Dellortos are a good option also. Like the set I have for sale in the classifieds ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
rhodyguy |
Oct 11 2015, 08:06 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,080 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Among others, but yes. I'm uncomfortable pointing out one specific ad and appearing biased. That being said I think I'll list a set of dels I have and see if a limited buyer base and plenty of inventory helps drive prices down.
Back on point. The set of carbs, outside rebuild, and a cable throttle setup will be less expensive than carbs that chances are won't work. |
flmont |
Oct 12 2015, 08:53 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 879 Joined: 21-October 08 From: Tucson,Az Member No.: 9,676 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I already have ICT 34's that came with the car,..So instead of buying new one's,..whats the largest engine I can build,..2056 or 2170,..???can I rejet....but, I just want to assemble the engine and install so I have stk crank and rods,...Ill go bigger cam,.. and larger valves and either 96 or 101 PC's but I don't want to buy new bottom end ,..what can I do.........Thanks
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Mueller |
Oct 12 2015, 11:32 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
I already have ICT 34's that came with the car,..So instead of buying new one's,..whats the largest engine I can build,..2056 or 2170,..???can I rejet....but, I just want to assemble the engine and install so I have stk crank and rods,...Ill go bigger cam,.. and larger valves and either 96 or 101 PC's but I don't want to buy new bottom end ,..what can I do.........Thanks RPM plays a factor as well as how large the motor is... Doing a quick search, I found 34mm carbs supposed to flow in the 109cfm (each) from one site...no idea how accurate. If you play with the calculators you can see the relationship of engine size and rpm...increase either one and you need more air going thru the carbs. http://www.gtsparkplugs.com/CarbCFMCalc.html |
rhodyguy |
Oct 12 2015, 11:34 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,080 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
I'm not so sure those carbs would be the appropriate choise for the engine combinations you describe.
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porschetub |
Oct 13 2015, 02:31 AM
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I'm not so sure those carbs would be the appropriate choise for the engine combinations you describe. Limited by vent size really,ran these carbs on various t1 motors and they go fine but they were smaller motors,I would think the 40/44mm kadron/solex. could be made to work ....but that's not what you have (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
Mark Henry |
Oct 13 2015, 06:42 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
I already have ICT 34's that came with the car,..So instead of buying new one's,..whats the largest engine I can build,..2056 or 2170,..???can I rejet....but, I just want to assemble the engine and install so I have stk crank and rods,...Ill go bigger cam,.. and larger valves and either 96 or 101 PC's but I don't want to buy new bottom end ,..what can I do.........Thanks Frankly those carbs suck....lots of experience here. If you brought them to my shop, insisting that I put those on you car, I'd pass on the job and wish you good luck. Dual weber IDF, aftermarket EFI or stock FI, all others are a waste of time and money. |
rhodyguy |
Oct 13 2015, 07:02 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,080 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Or Ljet. Components are far cheaper and readily available. Drastically increasing the displacement and retaining what may be the FI cam isn't going help tuning issues either
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ChrisFoley |
Oct 13 2015, 07:14 AM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,925 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None |
1.7L
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rhodyguy |
Oct 13 2015, 08:04 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,080 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
1.7 what?
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ChrisFoley |
Oct 13 2015, 08:10 AM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,925 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None |
1.7 what? 1.7 Liters That's the biggest the OP should go with his 2.0 running those carbs. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
rhodyguy |
Oct 13 2015, 08:25 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,080 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Ok. Now I get your point Chris. Unfortunately for the poster, prob another response he did'nt want to get.
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VWTortuga336 |
Oct 13 2015, 08:34 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 285 Joined: 5-October 14 From: Kansas City, Missouri Member No.: 17,979 Region Association: None |
I have a 1600 in my Bug with 34 ICTs, runs great (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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rhodyguy |
Oct 13 2015, 08:37 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,080 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Exactly.
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Ansbacher |
Oct 13 2015, 09:09 AM
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In my 2.0L I am running dual Dellorto DRLA 40mm and 32 vents with great success. One of the great advantages of running carbs is that eliminates so much clutter from the engine compartment, making it so much easier to work on other things.
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rhodyguy |
Oct 13 2015, 09:33 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,080 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Apparently he doesn't want to spring for different carbs.
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ThePaintedMan |
Oct 13 2015, 11:33 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,886 Joined: 6-September 11 From: St. Petersburg, FL Member No.: 13,527 Region Association: South East States |
Traditionally, one would not build an engine to suit a specific set of carbs... especially ICTs. They aren't worth much and really only belong on Beetles or a MPG-oriented engine like a 1.7.
I would think if you were going through the trouble of rebuilding an engine, you'd start with your desired displacement/purpose first, then source a set of appropriate carbs for your needs. Otherwise you're leaving a lot of performance on the table. Not trying to sound, harsh, just presenting you with the "typical" way things are approached. |
sean_v8_914 |
Oct 13 2015, 11:36 AM
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...or a 2275 that spins to 3150 rpm (speculative made up number)
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