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> Steel roof, Whos done it?
DavidSweden
post Oct 16 2015, 02:52 PM
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I am thinking about ditching the taga top and installing a permanent steel roof.

If any member has done this and have some advice to share I would be pleased to hear it, also pictures showing the work in progress would be helpful

Thanks in advance
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post Oct 16 2015, 02:57 PM
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post Oct 16 2015, 02:58 PM
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post Oct 16 2015, 03:45 PM
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post Oct 16 2015, 03:59 PM
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I'm interested.
And others I've spoken with are interested as well.
At least two that have been shown here.
A 924 /944 roof has a good basic shape for our cars but a bit of width has to be removed...... along with other surgery.
'Root' did the blue car.
TC has owned it.........twice ?
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post Oct 16 2015, 05:00 PM
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Racer Chris as well AA has done this as well. Not an easy task

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post Oct 16 2015, 06:40 PM
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Couldn't you re-enforce and bond a F/G top on?
Seems it would save you a ton of work.
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post Oct 16 2015, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Oct 16 2015, 05:40 PM) *

Couldn't you re-enforce and bond a F/G top on?
Seems it would save you a ton of work.


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post Oct 16 2015, 07:19 PM
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Restoration Design should make one
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post Oct 16 2015, 07:55 PM
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Restoration Design should make one

Too little demand. Especially compared with the demand for 356 and early 911 parts.
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post Oct 16 2015, 08:01 PM
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QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Oct 16 2015, 08:40 PM) *

Couldn't you re-enforce and bond a F/G top on?
Seems it would save you a ton of work.


I've had the same idea.
Some modern cars have metal panels that are glued on.
Corvettes have the skin glued to metal sub structures.
Gluing the 'glass roof on our cars seems a natural.
Some metal work will be needed to create enough surface area for the glue to be effective.
The seam at the front of the fiberglass where the rubber seal is could be tricky but can be handled.
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post Oct 16 2015, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Oct 16 2015, 09:55 PM) *

QUOTE(PanelBilly @ Oct 16 2015, 09:19 PM) *

Restoration Design should make one

Too little demand. Especially compared with the demand for 356 and early 911 parts.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) however, someone should make a set of blueprints for a kit. Not as expensive as tooling up for a kit that won't have a lot of demand & cheap enough for people to buy & then if they change their mind pitch or sell/give to someone else.
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post Oct 16 2015, 08:28 PM
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Dan Root ( Root Werks) did a really nice one some years back. He sold it and it changed hands several times, been all over the country. I believe CAR914 had it at least once.
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post Oct 16 2015, 08:51 PM
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QUOTE(Johny Blackstain @ Oct 16 2015, 10:02 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Oct 16 2015, 09:55 PM) *

QUOTE(PanelBilly @ Oct 16 2015, 09:19 PM) *

Restoration Design should make one

Too little demand. Especially compared with the demand for 356 and early 911 parts.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) however, someone should make a set of blueprints for a kit. Not as expensive as tooling up for a kit that won't have a lot of demand & cheap enough for people to buy & then if they change their mind pitch or sell/give to someone else.

Between the auto Atlanta thread and the stock targa roof, we have the template and info. It's the actual welding and metal shaping that is where all the work is.
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post Oct 17 2015, 06:06 AM
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QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Oct 16 2015, 05:59 PM) *

I'm interested.
And others I've spoken with are interested as well.
At least two that have been shown here.
A 924 /944 roof has a good basic shape for our cars but a bit of width has to be removed...... along with other surgery.
'Root' did the blue car.
TC has owned it.........twice ?


Yes, I've owned it twice - last I heard it was in New Hampshire.

The roof was done nicely, some other things in the car not so much

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post Oct 17 2015, 11:09 AM
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I am currently helping a friend build a steel roof for his 916 replica. so far, the skin is coming along nicely. English wheel, plannishing hammers, shrinker/stretcher, brake and slip roll are all needed. Still have to work out the side seal issues.

There is A LOT of hours going into this.
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post Oct 17 2015, 01:27 PM
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QUOTE(jpnovak @ Oct 17 2015, 09:09 AM) *

I am currently helping a friend build a steel roof for his 916 replica. so far, the skin is coming along nicely. English wheel, plannishing hammers, shrinker/stretcher, brake and slip roll are all needed. Still have to work out the side seal issues.

There is A LOT of hours going into this.


Any pictures of the progress?
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post Oct 17 2015, 01:44 PM
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Racer chris/tangerine racing mentioned making a kit. I don't think it ever went any further than that but maybe he would revisit the idea with enough pre ordered. It won't be cheap. I once asked scotty to ballpark an estimate and he said $3,500. We'll never get enough takers to make it feasible for restoration design to make up a mold.
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post Oct 18 2015, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Oct 17 2015, 03:44 PM) *

Racer chris/tangerine racing mentioned making a kit.
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I once asked scotty to ballpark an estimate and he said $3,500.
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I made two on customer cars at that price - as close to the factory design as I could.
Probably the only big difference is the way I made the headliner - using a single piece of black textured ABS instead of taut fabric (or leather).

The next fabrication/installation done here will be closer to $6000.
This includes "frenching" the rain gutters into the windshield frame as the factory did.

It's unlikely that I will make kits anytime in the near future, but I haven't ruled it out.
There are numerous details which go into a faithful reproduction.

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post Oct 18 2015, 09:39 AM
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QUOTE(Racer Chris @ Oct 18 2015, 11:17 AM) *

I made two on customer cars at that price - as close to the factory design as I could.
Probably the only big difference is the way I made the headliner - using a single piece of black textured ABS instead of taut fabric (or leather).

The next fabrication/installation done here will be closer to $6000.
This includes "frenching" the rain gutters into the windshield frame as the factory did.

It's unlikely that I will make kits anytime in the near future, but I haven't ruled it out.
There are numerous details which go into a faithful reproduction.

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