GT cooler install, Setrab unit from PMS Options

[rtalich]

I know there isn't a right or wrong way to install (or maybe there is). Just would like to know or get idea's from people that have done this particular install. Is there a prefabbed bracket I can buy? Or do I simply bolt this as close to the front as I possibly can? Using isolation mounts of course.

Also, how is the bottom shroud mounted?

I have a few ideas of how I want to mount... just would like to see what others have done. Thanks!

[Steve]

I used the pbase site as a guide when I did mine.
http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/9146gt_front_m...l_coolerI'm
http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/the9146gt_fron...l_modifications

[23e Heure]

I'm bookmarking this thread...

Has anyone fitted the louvred belly pan section that PMS sell as part of the kit?

Pictures please?

[mepstein]

I'm bookmarking this thread...

Has anyone fitted the louvred belly pan section that PMS sell as part of the kit?

Pictures please?

Pms website has lots of pics.

[23e Heure]

I had a scroll through the PMS pics, and sorry if I am being a muppet and missing some obvious ones, I just can't see a nice detail shot of the louvred belly pan itself.

Would be nice to get a nice clean shot of a front trunk with the pan installed, and before a cooler and shroud (obv.!) has been fitted.
The third one is the best angle... shame its such a small jpg (and a questionable install?)

These are the best I could turn up thru the PMS links:

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[mepstein]

I wanted max air flow so I asked scotty to make me up a custom set of louvers. The aluminum shroud was his idea.

[rtalich]

Thanks for the info and pics so far!! All pics I've seen on PMS website are not all that detailed enough to see what was done exactly.

[Cairo94507]

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[naro914]

We went a different route with Huey because we drive him for trips and want to use the front trunk area. We got a flatter style cooler and mounted it on the floor, that way the air is not heated up until it passes through the cooler and out, and the shroud does not get hot thus heating up everything in the front trunk (like the beer cooler that fits nicely up there!!). It also allows for a much flatter shroud meaning you have more open depth to use, but it takes up more of the floor space...so a trade off...
Unfortunately I don't have a picture of it (for some reason??) and its currently at the shop to get the rear suspension fixed. If I can sneak over there and get a few pics, I will

For Papa Smurf, we fabricated a bracket system to vent it out the hood...

[stownsen914]

Whatever you do, make sure the actual surface area of the air exit from your trunck is at least the same as the surface area of your cooler. So if the dimensions of your cooler that face the air source are 24 x 6, for example, then the exit must be at least 144 sq. inches. 1.5 times the cooler size is even better. The louvered panels shown in the thread look like a nice, clean option, but I'll bet the actual louver openings are nowhere near the size needed to exit air for a large cooler.

Apologies if I am stating the obvious, but if the exit from your cooler is restrictive, the air will stack up in your duct and basically won't even enter your duct opening (hence limited cooling), and will defeat much of the purpose of a front mounted cooler setup.

Scott

[naro914]

Scott's right. Obviously, air expands when heated so the volume of air increases and needs to exit....Which is another reason the mounted to the floor option worked well...the exit is effectively unlimited area..

[anderssj]

Really nice work on the louvers and Al shroud.

Understand that the incoming air will want to expand when heated/as it passes through the cooler. Theoretically (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) if one is going fast enough* (and shapes the inlet and exit ducts correctly) then the smaller exit could provide some additional thrust via the "Meredith Effect." The next question would be where to put that exit . . . . (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

*fast enough ~ > 200 mph

[EdwardBlume]

What's the total damage for cooler, shroud, oil lines and thermostat?

[23e Heure]

What's the total damage for cooler, shroud, oil lines and thermostat?

PMS price = $1870 plus shipping, including the louvred belly pan section

[23e Heure]

That custom made one in mepstein's post above does fit well, some nice fabricating went into that.

And I guess the extra louvres help allay any concerns about the (hot) air pressure physics.

...

Still wondering though if we can find any clean photos of the standard PMS louvred belly pan installed..?

[SirAndy]

Whatever you do, make sure the actual surface area of the air exit from your trunck is at least the same as the surface area of your cooler. So if the dimensions of your cooler that face the air source are 24 x 6, for example, then the exit must be at least 144 sq. inches. 1.5 times the cooler size is even better. The louvered panels shown in the thread look like a nice, clean option, but I'll bet the actual louver openings are nowhere near the size needed to exit air for a large cooler.

Apologies if I am stating the obvious, but if the exit from your cooler is restrictive, the air will stack up in your duct and basically won't even enter your duct opening (hence limited cooling), and will defeat much of the purpose of a front mounted cooler setup.

That would be true in a static environment.

However, if you increase air speed after the cooler you can expel that same air just as efficiently with a smaller size outlet.
Which is exactly what the louvers do ...
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[Cairo94507]

Now you guys have me worried. I have the exact same set-up as Mark with louvers in the trunk floor, like PMS has on their car above. I am going to go out a limb here and say if PMS selected this method to expel hot air from their car, it will be good enough for my street driver. However, you got me thinking for a minute there....

[mepstein]

Now you guys have me worried. I have the exact same set-up as Mark with louvers in the trunk floor, like PMS has on their car above. I am going to go out a limb here and say if PMS selected this method to expel hot air from their car, it will be good enough for my street driver. However, you got me thinking for a minute there....

Michael - you have nothing to worry about. Remember, the front cooler is a supplement to your on engine cooler. Your covered.

I removed my on engine cooler so I'm relying solely on the front cooler. If it gets to warm I will add back the engine cooler.

[mepstein]

Whatever you do, make sure the actual surface area of the air exit from your trunck is at least the same as the surface area of your cooler. So if the dimensions of your cooler that face the air source are 24 x 6, for example, then the exit must be at least 144 sq. inches. 1.5 times the cooler size is even better. The louvered panels shown in the thread look like a nice, clean option, but I'll bet the actual louver openings are nowhere near the size needed to exit air for a large cooler.

Apologies if I am stating the obvious, but if the exit from your cooler is restrictive, the air will stack up in your duct and basically won't even enter your duct opening (hence limited cooling), and will defeat much of the purpose of a front mounted cooler setup.

That would be true in a static environment.

However, if you increase air speed after the cooler you can expel that same air just as efficiently with a smaller size outlet.
Which is exactly what the louvers do ...
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I'm going to use an electric fan over the louvers. Hopefully that will give me adequate airflow when the car is stationary

[SirAndy]

Whatever you do, make sure the actual surface area of the air exit from your trunck is at least the same as the surface area of your cooler. So if the dimensions of your cooler that face the air source are 24 x 6, for example, then the exit must be at least 144 sq. inches. 1.5 times the cooler size is even better. The louvered panels shown in the thread look like a nice, clean option, but I'll bet the actual louver openings are nowhere near the size needed to exit air for a large cooler.

Apologies if I am stating the obvious, but if the exit from your cooler is restrictive, the air will stack up in your duct and basically won't even enter your duct opening (hence limited cooling), and will defeat much of the purpose of a front mounted cooler setup.

That would be true in a static environment.

However, if you increase air speed after the cooler you can expel that same air just as efficiently with a smaller size outlet.
Which is exactly what the louvers do ...
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I'm going to use an electric fan over the louvers. Hopefully that will give me adequate airflow when the car is stationary

That wasn't my point, but yes, a fan will help when not moving.

My point was that the design of the louvers will increase the air speed of the hot air while the car is moving, thus offsetting some of the surface area required for the exit holes.
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