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Pull type clutch question…. |
ClayPerrine |
Oct 19 2015, 08:29 PM
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If you go with the pull clutch it will be near impossible to separate the trans from the engine without removing BOTH from the car. If you choose this route be sure to 'test' disengagement some way before installing the assembly, especially if you do it with a non-standard group of parts Yes, it is tough to do, but it can be done in the car. It requires sticking your fingers in the transmission holes on top to rotate the throwout bearing into place while holding the throwout arm against it's spring. It can be done, but it takes practice. |
Mark Henry |
Oct 19 2015, 08:57 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
I think this is the main reason so many have recommended sticking with the 914's 901 trans - a lot less hassle (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) If it was me I'd take all the gears and bits I like and stick them into a 914 box...oh wait that's what I did (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Then I put the 911-901 in my '67 bug. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) |
Larmo63 |
Oct 19 2015, 09:23 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
The flanges do fit the same CVs I have. I have already a complete 5 lug conversion, with 914/6 rear hubs/stubs.
I'm figuring this out, slowly but semi-surely. Thank you for for the input guys. |
Steve |
Oct 19 2015, 11:52 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,608 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California |
Hassle wise, it is easier with a six 2.0-2.7 to use the 2.0 six flywheel. It mates up with a stock 2.0 six push clutch package and bolts right up to a stock 914 trans. I ran this combo with my 2.7 six for over 10 trouble free years.
When running a 3.0-3.2 you are stuck with a KEP adapter to work with the 914 trans. For a 3.0-3.2 motor the 71 901 trans pull clutch works much better than the KEP adapter. The clutch pedal with the 71 901 trans pull clutch went down like butter. The KEP adapter with stage 2 clutch felt like something was going to snap. This is my opinion based on experience with both transmissions. I ran the KEP adapter for 15 years with a stock 914 trans and my 3.2 motor. I recently upgraded to a 915 gearbox, to get around the clutch issues and get the correct gearing for my 3.2 six. |
0396 |
Oct 20 2015, 12:03 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,046 Joined: 13-October 03 From: L.A. Calif Member No.: 1,245 Region Association: Southern California |
Hassle wise, it is easier with a six 2.0-2.7 to use the 2.0 six flywheel. It mates up with a stock 2.0 six push clutch package and bolts right up to a stock 914 trans. I ran this combo with my 2.7 six for over 10 trouble free years. When running a 3.0-3.2 you are stuck with a KEP adapter to work with the 914 trans. For a 3.0-3.2 motor the 71 901 trans pull clutch works much better than the KEP adapter. The clutch pedal with the 71 901 trans pull clutch went down like butter. The KEP adapter with stage 2 clutch felt like something was going to snap. This is my opinion based on experience with both transmissions. I ran the KEP adapter for 15 years with a stock 914 trans and my 3.2 motor. I recently upgraded to a 915 gearbox, to get around the clutch issues and get the correct gearing for my 3.2 six. Wise advise, unless you're going to install a 3.2/3.6 down the road. The current configuration should be fine.....unless you just want to, that's ok too. |
rgalla9146 |
Oct 20 2015, 05:42 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,564 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
Hassle wise, it is easier with a six 2.0-2.7 to use the 2.0 six flywheel. It mates up with a stock 2.0 six push clutch package and bolts right up to a stock 914 trans. I ran this combo with my 2.7 six for over 10 trouble free years. When running a 3.0-3.2 you are stuck with a KEP adapter to work with the 914 trans. For a 3.0-3.2 motor the 71 901 trans pull clutch works much better than the KEP adapter. The clutch pedal with the 71 901 trans pull clutch went down like butter. The KEP adapter with stage 2 clutch felt like something was going to snap. This is my opinion based on experience with both transmissions. I ran the KEP adapter for 15 years with a stock 914 trans and my 3.2 motor. I recently upgraded to a 915 gearbox, to get around the clutch issues and get the correct gearing for my 3.2 six. Just to clarify, the '70-'71 trans from a 911 is identified as the '911' type trans. Before, was the 901, after was the 915. A 914 trans can be converted to a pull type clutch. It requires moving the pivot location for the throw-out -arm and then using all the parts for the '70-'71 clutch. |
Larmo63 |
Oct 20 2015, 04:18 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
Yes, I mis-identified it earlier as a 901/01. My trans is indeed a 911/01.
The serial number doesn't make sense, but……. |
Mark Henry |
Oct 20 2015, 05:39 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Just to clarify, the '70-'71 trans from a 911 is identified as the '911' type trans. Before, was the 901, after was the 915. A 914 trans can be converted to a pull type clutch. It requires moving the pivot location for the throw-out -arm and then using all the parts for the '70-'71 clutch. I've always called it the 911-901 , not that it's correct, it's just the easiest for me to identify it. Although machining the case is the correct way, to use the pull clutch, there is not a whole lot of meat to grab onto between the different cases. My 1967 bug has a 911-901 and I using a 914/4 clutch assembly. I never machined the case. I took a 914 pivot and release bearing arm and bent, cut, welded with a gusset, till it worked correctly. It's been 3 years of summer daily driving without issue. |
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