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ppickerell
post Mar 10 2005, 10:43 AM
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HPH has advised and I have accepted the following additional items to clean up the front:
Weltmeister Sway Bar
German Turbo Tie Rod kit
SS Braided Brake lines
Front rotors
Front pads
Front Bearings
Alignment
Looks like we may get the car back late March. I wish I could remember what the car looked like!
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Jeroen
post Mar 10 2005, 11:04 AM
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I wouldn't do the welt bar...
go Tarett
fairly small price difference and lots more quality
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post Mar 10 2005, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE (Jeroen @ Mar 10 2005, 10:04 AM)
I wouldn't do the welt bar...
go Tarett
fairly small price difference and lots more quality

yep. taretts are designed a bunch beefier. welts look like a plumber's erector set.

you wont regret it once you see the quality
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post Mar 10 2005, 12:27 PM
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Too late now. My recollection was that there was QUITE a differential according to Rich B at HPH?
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post Mar 10 2005, 12:49 PM
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tarret's definitely a better bar, but welt will work just fine. give us the full spec on your car!
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post Mar 10 2005, 01:27 PM
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IIRC the Welt bars are $300 + $100 for adj. droplinks
The Tarett bar is $475 (comes with adj.droplinks as standard)
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post Mar 10 2005, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE (ppickerell @ Mar 10 2005, 11:27 AM)
Too late now. My recollection was that there was QUITE a differential according to Rich B at HPH?

or was he just trying to sell you what he had in stock? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/unsure.gif)
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post Mar 10 2005, 02:29 PM
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I am too far down the road with HPH to get out now! Specs:
Car started as a rust free cali 73 1.7 and then I bought a complete running 2.0 that I sent to Brad/HPH
Work done to date:
Koni Yellows
New rear springs
Raby kit 2056 complete rebuild with ceramic lifters, mild cam keeping stock FI
European Racing Headrers and BHursch muffler ceramic coated
Complete new tranny with Billet Intermediate plate and ZF diff (F'in expensive bits here!)
Rennshift
New brakes
ss brake lines
New fuel lines
Front sway bar
Door latches rebuilt
HPH says that car should be finished by end of March. We plan on a season of AX, and then maybe 5 lug conversion, flares, fuel cell, halon system and roll bar over the winter if we are still having fun. Then next season will be track and AX. After that season, then one might expect a 6 conversion would be in the works.
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post Mar 10 2005, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Mar 10 2005, 11:58 AM)
QUOTE (ppickerell @ Mar 10 2005, 11:27 AM)
Too late now. My recollection was that there was QUITE a differential according to Rich B at HPH?

or was he just trying to sell you what he had in stock? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/unsure.gif)

In fairness to HPH, both bars were offered. I have opted for the better quality part every step of the way, and now feel somewhat stupid about going the cheap route on the sway bar. This may be the most expensive rebuild of a 914 ever!
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post Mar 10 2005, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE (ppickerell @ Mar 10 2005, 12:31 PM)
This may be the most expensive rebuild of a 914 ever!

not even close ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif)

i know you guys are going to have fun out there!
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/driving.gif) Andy
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post Mar 10 2005, 03:02 PM
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The Welt down links have been known to bind on the "U" tab on the A-arm which can cause the rod end to break. Mine was binding, but didn't break. It can be "dealt with", me thinks

I now run the Tarett. Having said that, the Tarett is a (effectivly) 22mm bar which at it's softest settiing may be too stiff for a mild suspension set-up. I see you have a rear AR bar
& LSD so you mightcould get away with it.

As to your costs.....I agree with Andy. I've had 7-8 years to dump money into mine.....you have a ways to go (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)
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post Mar 10 2005, 03:10 PM
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I see a contest in the making. Most money poured into a 914!
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post Mar 10 2005, 03:21 PM
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I see a contest in the making. Most money poured into a 914!

No way am I adding up my costs.
I did that once 4-5 (6?)years ago. 14000 IIRC, without including the cost of the car (4800).....and I do all my own work. *Then* I decided I needed to be an AX hero.....auggh.
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post Mar 10 2005, 03:30 PM
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Hmmm,
$4500 for car
$8500 for motor
$7k tranny
$5K for incidentals

Then I will need $6K for paint
$6K for interior

I really love my car, but shoulda bought a Boxster!
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post Mar 10 2005, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE (ppickerell @ Mar 10 2005, 01:30 PM)
Hmmm,
$4500 for car
$8500 for motor
$7k tranny
$5K for incidentals

Then I will need $6K for paint
$6K for interior

I really love my car, but shoulda bought a Boxster!

Humm........I've got around $600 in my paint job.
I surrender in advance . It should take you only another year or 2 to surpass me. I only spent maybe 5K this winter. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)
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post Mar 10 2005, 06:11 PM
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I am sure that I have poured the most into a 912 and I am not done yet. Don't tell the wife...


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post Mar 10 2005, 09:02 PM
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Patrick, any chance of encouraging Rich to have you ready for Marina?

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post Mar 10 2005, 09:02 PM
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Brit,
I hope my car looks as nice as yours when it's done. So I can assume that you are not doing this for the investment value? I am looking to rent some space in the east bay and put in a lift so that I can do some of my own work. I can't really work out of my garage. So for now HPH is generating some vigorous revenue. It's definitely cool to see some progress! I like to support my local P-Car business guy. Kahlers in Dublin is liking my non-914 P-Car business that's for sure!
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post Mar 10 2005, 09:07 PM
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I am looking to rent some space in the east bay and put in a lift so that I can do some of my own work. I can't really work out of my garage


that would be cool, then you can recoup some of the money by renting time to some of us folks (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)
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Hey Patrick....at least you see light at the end of the tunnel....when I jokingly put "looking forward to the 2006 season" I didn't really think it would be true. But realistically, I'm done for the year. The car build is basically a serial move every step of the way, and every step takes WEEKS! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif)

We've got one helluva long way to go. Since blowing our engine, it will be well over one year in between races.

On the positivie side for you, you're only halfway to what I have spent on my car, and yours is on it's own suspension! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)

Never again.....The build has pretty much sapped all of the good times out of owning a 914. It's supposed to be fun....currently it isn't.

$8K for a stock FI Raby motor?.....no shit? I saw it at HPH the other day....she sure looked purdy! I like the powdercoated runners!

Bill P.
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