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> Oklahoma Option for Ethanol Free Gas - anywhere else?
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post Nov 5 2015, 03:02 PM
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Edited title, since folks may not equate the original postal shortcut of OK for Oklahoma.

After not being there since last year (2014) due to other business & family matters, I recently was in the Tulsa, Broken Arrow, Locust Grove, Tahlequah, Sallisaw, Roland & the general Northeast OK area 3x in Sept & Oct. & noticed something new (to me) with their gas stations.

That is - all of the stations have dropped their mid-range octane gas option, in favor of an Alcohol-Free (Ethanol-free) option with is about 30-50 cents more than their Ethanol-Regular (not sure if the Octane ratings are equal for Regular with & without).

That seems a great option for both our 914s & other classic cars, as well as for new cars - in order to avoid all the negative effects of the ethanol in fuel. (I was in a rental car on all trips, so didn't matter for me.)

When did OK make this change?
... & is it statewide & for all stations, or just optional &/or in certain areas? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

Also, are any other states or localities doing this? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

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post Nov 5 2015, 03:42 PM
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I'm in OKC... some stations are alcohol free!!! That's what I use in all my cars.. They all have a few years on them!!
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post Nov 5 2015, 04:00 PM
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Here in NASCAR country (Charlotte NC)

Cashion's changed their high flow diesel pumps to no eth. (dang ! I have a F-250)
Also Kangaroo used to have race gas (103?) but I haven't been there in awhile.

Yea, a friend of mine has a blown Chev Nova 427 running over 12:1 and pings
with anything under 101 octane.
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post Nov 5 2015, 04:23 PM
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Here in SW OK, the Shamrock stations and one independantstation offer ONLY alcohol free gas. Several others offer No E, 5% E, and 10%E gas.

In my 2015 Honda CR-V, I usually put whatever is nearby. My 2002 Toy MR-2 usually gets No E, and the 914 always get No E...except for cross country trips.

Several years ago the pump label said "up to 10% Eth" but each time I would test it it was Ethanol free. That went on for a couple of years.
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post Nov 5 2015, 04:48 PM
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You can find your local ethanol free gas station with this website. It's updated pretty regularly.

http://pure-gas.org
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post Nov 5 2015, 05:40 PM
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Or a marina.
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post Nov 5 2015, 07:02 PM
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There are two stations here with ethanol-free gas.
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post Nov 5 2015, 07:03 PM
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Wish they went ethanol free...back when it was the norm my Sunoco had 94 octane super. My chip'd A4 loved it. Hope it comes back.
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post Nov 5 2015, 07:07 PM
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Or move to Alaska, all gas is Ethanol Free
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post Nov 5 2015, 07:18 PM
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The Tulsa/NE-OK stations I stoped at & saw from their signs with the Regular-No-E were:

Walmart Sallisaw

Pilot, Fina & QT/Quik Trip, & Kum-n-Go (sounds like another type of "quickie stop" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) ), & some others in TUL, BA, Tahl., Locust Grove, Roland, Gore, Webers Falls, the stop on the Muskogee Tpk., etc.

So it seemed fairly widespread.

Also there is a station on the main drag US 64 thru Sallisaw which sell old school pure gas in hi-octane for those in that area. Don't recall the name, but it's a no-brand old time station on the south side of the street just before the bend south on the east end of town.

AFAIK - there is no such animal out here in the peoples republic of Kalifornia! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

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QUOTE(914forme @ Nov 5 2015, 05:07 PM) *

Or move to Alaska, all gas is Ethanol Free


I wonder if that has something to do with freezing problems of the water that forms in a short while with Ethanol gas.

I just read an article in a R&T (waiting in Dr. office (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) ) about the Indy racers which used to use 100% alcohol, & that they had to drain & flush the fuel systems between races/seasons due to the high corrosivity of it!

They had a similar problem with the supercharged WWII aircraft engines which used alcohol & water injection corroding the fuel systems, such as with the P-38 & P-51 etc.

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post Nov 5 2015, 07:46 PM
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I like ethanol gas. It works great in my turbo motor... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

You guys need turbos...
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post Nov 5 2015, 07:49 PM
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Real gas is on almost every corner now Tom. I have a station 1 block from home that sells 91 octane no ethanol. My car loves it. Some shell stations have 93 real gas.
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post Nov 5 2015, 08:12 PM
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QUOTE(The Cabinetmaker @ Nov 5 2015, 05:49 PM) *

Real gas is on almost every corner now Tom. I have a station 1 block from home that sells 91 octane no ethanol. My car loves it. Some shell stations have 93 real gas.


I'll have you point me to them Curt, if I ever drive one of my own cars back there again.

It would be interesting to see if our Wheezy Westfalia would do better on 93 real gas! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Did you get your 914 running right yet, after the dist problems?

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QUOTE(Mike Bellis @ Nov 5 2015, 05:46 PM) *

I like ethanol gas. It works great in my turbo motor... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

You guys need turbos...


Mike, the ethanol & byproduct water after sitting can still eat through your fuel system components, lines, hoses, etc. - as they found with racing & aircraft & hydroplane engines using alcohol in them for their turbo &/or super chargers.

So it's more a factor of preserving longevity of parts & fuel systems on our cars, & for storing them over the winter or between use for 1-2+ months, when the ethanol fuel puts water into your fuel tank by sitting too long. That's why Stabil sells so much product!

The MBTE used in Calif & elsewhere was far more corrosive to rubber parts, & turned out to be a carcinogen that could rapidly infiltrate in the soil down to ground water (faster than fuel, solvents, etc.).

Some feel the octane boost with ethanol is better for high compression & turbos, but the con is corrosiveness & watering-off in the fuel.

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