Seat removal, How to Options

[74ravenna]

I hate to ask because it should be pretty straight forward and I've searched the site for an explanation but couldn't find one.

So, what is the process for seat removal? The bolts at the rear of the track are easy enough to access but what about the forward bolts?
Or does the seat slide out of the tracks somehow?
I just need to access the wiring and do a little cleaning (surface rust removal) of the floor.

Thanks in advance.

[mepstein]

The seat slides off the track. I slide my finger under the track next to the sill. Press on the metal spring and slide the seat forward. Once you find the flat metal spring and push it flat to the rail, the seat will slide out of the track. Takes seconds. No tools.

[Montreal914]

Two ways:

What you described; 2 screws on each side in the back. The front is simply engaged in the tilt mechanism. Once you remove the 4 rear screws, the seat is pretty much free (you will see).

Or, slide the seat all the way forward until it its the stop, then back it off by 1/4-1/2". You then need to slide your finger in one of the two rails (I forget which one) from the front side and lift the metal tongue (stopping device) which will allow you to pull the seat forward, completely out of the rail.

Worth removing with the screws the first time which will allow you to see the stopping mechanism with the seat out of the car. You can then slide out the rails, do even more cleaning.

Next time you will be able to do just the slide out.

Good luck.

[74ravenna]

Yup, came right out.

Now, there were/are disconnected wires that look like they are supposed to plug into the relays under the seat.
Are all of these supposed to plug in, my guess is yes, then if so how do I figure out where the 3 leads plug in?


Steve

[Dave_Darling]

Sounds like you have a 74? If so, those are for the "door ajar" buzzer, and for the Dreaded Seatbelt Interlock Relay. The relay can AND SHOULD be disarmed by splicing the two fat yellow wires that run to it together. The relay itself can be discarded or reinstalled, whatever floats your boat, at that point.

--DD

[74ravenna]

I do have a 74! I will take your advice and disarm it.

Thanks
Steve

[EdwardBlume]

Not a bad idea to clean the rails and add some lubricant ie grease the rails upon reinstallation. 74s are the best BTW. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

[74ravenna]

I am definitely cleaning and lubing the rails. They operate very difficultly.

I first need to touch up some surface rust where the steel brackets that hold the relays and seat rails mount. Basically anything above where the coating was applied by the factory.

As I chip off the coating around the seams I quickly get to shiny gray steel. Should I trust that there is no need to proceed and can leave the original coating on or is it more likely that there'll be hidden rust in some areas?


Thanks
Steve

[orthobiz]

My take on it in an old thread with lots of (excruciating) detail:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=231430&hl=

Paul

[74ravenna]

Sounds like you have a 74? If so, those are for the "door ajar" buzzer, and for the Dreaded Seatbelt Interlock Relay. The relay can AND SHOULD be disarmed by splicing the two fat yellow wires that run to it together. The relay itself can be discarded or reinstalled, whatever floats your boat, at that point.

--DD

So do I understand this correctly?
I splice the yellow/red stripe and yellow/white stripe together and tape off the rest of the wires?

Thanks

[0396]

Sounds like you have a 74? If so, those are for the "door ajar" buzzer, and for the Dreaded Seatbelt Interlock Relay. The relay can AND SHOULD be disarmed by splicing the two fat yellow wires that run to it together. The relay itself can be discarded or reinstalled, whatever floats your boat, at that point.

--DD

So do I understand this correctly?
I splice the yellow/red stripe and yellow/white stripe together and tape off the rest of the wires?

Thanks

I have a 74, so (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)

[Dave_Darling]

Yes. Splice the thick yellow/red wires together, and cover the splice with shrink tubing, to keep water and dirt out. Unless your 914 has no leaks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

--DD

[74ravenna]

Yes. Splice the thick yellow/red wires together, and cover the splice with shrink tubing, to keep water and dirt out. Unless your 914 has no leaks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

--DD

Ok, will do!

Leaks? Its probably not "if" it leaks but how many leaks it'll have once its on the road.
It hasn't been started in 32 years. It just sat it the POs cellar for that whole time so lots of dry rubber.

Thanks once again for the help.

Steve

[jbyron]

Ok, zombie thread time. I just pulled my driver seat by removing the bolts because I couldn't find the spring release. Once removed, I found the spring on the TUNNEL side of the seat. Does that imply it's a passenger seat installed on the wrong side?

Oh, and the seat adjuster loop is on the left had for both seats. I think I have two passenger seats??

[Cairo94507]

The seat slider adjuster should be adjacent to the tunnel on both seats. Sound like you have 2 of the same seat brackets. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[jbyron]

The seat slider adjuster should be adjacent to the tunnel on both seats. Sound like you have 2 of the same seat brackets. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

Ok yeah, that makes sense. I don't actually need a different seat, I just need a driver side seat bracket. Thanks!

[doug_b_928]

The silver brackets (one of which has the black handled seat adjuster) are independently bolted to the seat base so you should be able to just remove the seat and reverse the two silver brackets from that seat (i.e., switch them to opposite sides of the same seat). To check if you actually have two of the same side seats feel for the larger indentation on the driver’s seat which is a relief for the ebrake handle) and see if it’s just as big on the passenger seat (which would indicate that you have two driver’s seats). But I’m guessing a PO just put the silver tails on backwards on one of the seats.

[jbyron]

The silver brackets (one of which has the black handled seat adjuster) are independently bolted to the seat base so you should be able to just remove the seat and reverse the two silver brackets from that seat (i.e., switch them to opposite sides of the same seat). To check if you actually have two of the same side seats feel for the larger indentation on the driver’s seat which is a relief for the ebrake handle) and see if it’s just as big on the passenger seat (which would indicate that you have two driver’s seats). But I’m guessing a PO just put the silver tails on backwards on one of the seats.

Tried swapping the silver brackets, but couldn't get the seat to go back on the rails. The metal prong that catches on the release spring interferes with the seat adjuster.

Definitely have two passenger seats - no e-brake indentation. Ordering a replacement seat bracket for the driver's side.