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> what should i charge for a complete fi system for 73 2.0
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post Nov 29 2015, 06:13 PM
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it worked when it came out for carbs.only part i dont have is trigger points.harness is broken ,but easily repairable.i want to be fair and get some money and get it to someone who can use it
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post Nov 29 2015, 06:30 PM
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Really depends on the overall condition and exactly what you are including. Known good MPS, is an adder too. The real question is why are you going to carbs? If you only need the trigger points, use the FI system. You MAY, get a few more HP in going to carbs, but a good FI system is more dependable, and efficient. Yes it sounds cool, but I'm still fighting issues with my 2.0 and webber carbs. So yes I would be a candidate if you do want to sell it. Pics help too.
100-500?
That's my guess.
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post Nov 29 2015, 06:38 PM
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QUOTE(Mikey914 @ Nov 29 2015, 04:30 PM) *

Really depends on the overall condition and exactly what you are including. Known good MPS, is an adder too. The real question is why are you going to carbs? If you only need the trigger points, use the FI system. You MAY, get a few more HP in going to carbs, but a good FI system is more dependable, and efficient. Yes it sounds cool, but I'm still fighting issues with my 2.0 and webber carbs. So yes I would be a candidate if you do want to sell it. Pics help too.
100-500?
That's my guess.

I'd be second if you decided not to. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Nov 29 2015, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE(Mikey914 @ Nov 29 2015, 04:30 PM) *

Really depends on the overall condition and exactly what you are including. Known good MPS, is an adder too. The real question is why are you going to carbs? If you only need the trigger points, use the FI system. You MAY, get a few more HP in going to carbs, but a good FI system is more dependable, and efficient. Yes it sounds cool, but I'm still fighting issues with my 2.0 and webber carbs. So yes I would be a candidate if you do want to sell it. Pics help too.
100-500?
That's my guess.



ive already converted to carbs.pm me and ill send you a pic from my phone.mps is there
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post Nov 29 2015, 07:21 PM
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It seems like the going price is comparable to carbs. A functioning setup is in the $500 range. Non complete setup $200-300.


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post Nov 29 2015, 07:30 PM
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I think $350, but I'm playing from the sideline
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post Nov 29 2015, 07:46 PM
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For a truly complete setup....$400-$500 all day long
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post Nov 29 2015, 07:53 PM
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I guess it all depends on what is included...

Many systems lack of the proper distributor, the 3 port fuel pump, or come with a leaking MPS or plenum. These aren't functioning systems. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

A fully equipped system with all the these in operating will reach $500. Not easy to find either, just look how many WTB posts.
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post Nov 29 2015, 08:00 PM
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i do not have distributor,but all else including fuel pump,air cleaner mps etc.ill put in classified,and figure out price
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post Nov 29 2015, 08:10 PM
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Complete, complete. Problem is The harness should get shipped to Jeff Bowlsby to get refurb'd before use or the new owner could easily be chasing gremlins. I would never re-install a system again without having the harness serviced. A harness in place undisturbed can work fine. Transfer to the next engine and it's a whole new game. So untested....$ 100-150. Certified, 4-500. MHO based on experience.
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post Nov 29 2015, 11:06 PM
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that makes sense.
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post Nov 30 2015, 07:19 AM
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I've been trying to sell a complete system from a '74, no takers.

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post Nov 30 2015, 11:12 AM
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This is how I see the value of a used D-jet system. All in, you are looking at $2000-3000 for a functioning system as a minimum, not refinished and not including the 4-6 hours of labor it will take to install once all serviceable parts are acquired. Don't forget the consumables - hoses, gaskets, filters...

The point that 'complete systems' are going for $200-500 all day long just reflects the great uncertainty of the functionality of each of their components. That MPS, TPS and harness in the box are probably just cores. Maybe the fuel pump too. No dizzy? No fuel pump? No trigger points? No TS2? In only the rarest of circumstances will someone remove a perfectly functioning FI system to replace with carbs or aftermarket FI, one or more things are worn out or defective and need replacement and they simply did not have the skill or interest to troubleshoot it correctly. The $500 complete and functioning 2.0L D-Jet Fi system does not exist. If you buy these pull-off packages you will with 100% certainty need to buy additional parts to replace the bad parts that you only find while troubleshooting the installation, and those costs add up. Know what you are getting into before you leap. D-Jet is an excellent FI system (as is L-Jet), but you just need to understand how it all works, and what it costs.

I tried to document realistic parts values as I know them, but your comments on the values I am using are welcome and encouraged for the sake of discussion.



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post Nov 30 2015, 12:18 PM
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I think you are dead on Jeff. It's more than just the sum of the parts.
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post Nov 30 2015, 01:23 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Unless all parts are tested and restored the whole thing is a crap shoot. I went through this with "a known good working F.I. for a 2.0" I sent the harness to Jeff for new boots and testing. The harness had a few wires that didn't pass. This is purely a result of unplugging a harness that has heat cycled a couple thousand times. I tested what I could and started with the issues. Chased a problem I could not find purely because I was making assumptions. Turned out the vacuum advance had failed on one side causing a vacuum leak I did not trace. So, price it so someone can sort it out and toss what's not working when they receive it and get a really good injection system back in service.
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post Nov 30 2015, 01:45 PM
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I agree with Jeff as well. Good post!
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post Nov 30 2015, 01:54 PM
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$15

For a "working" FI system that was replaced by carbs with no trigger points and a broken shorted out harness.

You asked.
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post Nov 30 2015, 02:11 PM
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Some of the part values in jeff's spreadsheet are highly optimistic.
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post Nov 30 2015, 02:16 PM
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Do tell Kev... You big tease.
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QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Nov 30 2015, 03:16 PM) *

Do tell Kev... You big tease.



Hi Jeff,
I totally agree with your evaluation of parts and issues.
Bottom line, buy it at the best price & quality then sort out the problems.
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