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| vintage914racer |
 Dec 18 2015, 10:04 PM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 429 Joined: 28-December 03 From: Minneapolis, MN Member No.: 1,473  |
I just wrapped up parting out a 1972 914. The only thing really left at this point is the engine. It's nasty and clearly was home to a rats nest. Is this worth anything at all or should I leave it with the thiroughly rusted body shell at the scrapper?
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| 914itis |
Dec 18 2015, 10:08 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,892 Joined: 9-October 10 From: New York City Member No.: 12,256 Region Association: North East States |
I 've seen worst, someone may be able to rebuilt it or use it for parts.
Put an ad on the world for free pickup. those heat exchangers are worth a few bucks. |
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| Spoke |
Dec 18 2015, 10:10 PM
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Jerry Group: Members Posts: 6,978 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None 
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Those look like stainless steel heat exchangers worth $200-$400
The fuel injection parts could be worth a couple hundred as well especially if the MPS holds vacuum. |
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| SKL1 |
Dec 18 2015, 10:13 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,602 Joined: 19-February 11 From: north Scottsdale Member No.: 12,732 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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Would agree it's worth something- just need to figure out if worth the time to try and part it out. Getting the heat exchangers off will probably be a challenge though!!
Dead mice are always a joy to work with... |
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| vintage914racer |
Dec 18 2015, 10:20 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 429 Joined: 28-December 03 From: Minneapolis, MN Member No.: 1,473 |
Looks like it's worth holding onto. I'll spend the holiday tearing it apart. Thanks all for the input.
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| thieuster |
Dec 19 2015, 12:55 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 447 Joined: 31-January 15 From: 275 mls NW from Stuttgart. Member No.: 18,384 Region Association: Europe |
QUOTE(vintage914racer @ Dec 19 2015, 05:20 AM)  Looks like it's worth holding onto. I'll spend the holiday tearing it apart. Thanks all for the input. Just do it! This is how I started: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i211.photobucket.com-18384-1450508100.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i211.photobucket.com-18384-1450508101.2.jpg) The result after a few weeks: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i211.photobucket.com-18384-1450508101.3.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i211.photobucket.com-18384-1450508101.4.jpg) |
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| Geezer914 |
Dec 19 2015, 07:10 AM
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Geezer914 Group: Members Posts: 1,417 Joined: 18-March 09 From: Salem, NJ Member No.: 10,179 Region Association: North East States
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Amazing what a little TLC will do. Nice job!
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| JeffBowlsby |
Dec 19 2015, 09:00 AM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,510 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None
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Looks clean! You might want to recheck your fuel and vacuum line routing!
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| SKL1 |
Dec 19 2015, 11:39 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,602 Joined: 19-February 11 From: north Scottsdale Member No.: 12,732 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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Curious what paint you used on the engine shroud- wonder how that will hold up to use (heat etc)?
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| thieuster |
Dec 19 2015, 12:02 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 447 Joined: 31-January 15 From: 275 mls NW from Stuttgart. Member No.: 18,384 Region Association: Europe |
@ Jeff: tell me more. I installed the engine mid May and did about 3K miles with the car. Without a glitch! But, I certainly would like to learn from a (far more) experienced 914 owner/guru!
@SKL1: it's all powder coated. So it will stand up to the heat. I have enough experience with powder coating (other classic cars) to be confident about that. What I tried to say is: it started with a clean-up of the engine and the gearbox; a 10 liter/2.6 gallons bucket full of dirt! Then I wanted to replace the pushrod tubes (leaking seals) and I ended taking the engine apart. I had the engine rebuilt at a local engine shop - well knowns for their VW and Porsche engines in the 70s when Rallycross was really big here in Europe. These guys had virtually all I needed on the shelf. So, don't use it as a boat anchor! Rebuild it and decide then what you want: getting another Teener for that engine or selling the engine to a fellow enthousiast! Menno |
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| JeffBowlsby |
Dec 19 2015, 01:17 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,510 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None
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It may work OK, but tis not right. Look at the vacuum hose off the PCV and the fuel hose on the fuel rail by cyl #3. That fuel rail on 3-4 is also for the 1-2 side with the CSV - how did you terminate that middle nipple? Compare them to these:
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| vintage914racer |
Dec 19 2015, 02:44 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 429 Joined: 28-December 03 From: Minneapolis, MN Member No.: 1,473 |
I dropped what was left of the 914 at the scrapper today. The second the front end loader tried to pick it up it split in half. Serious rust and some really hack long repairs.
I'm going to try to tackle removal of the heat exchangers tomorrow. Wish me luck.   |
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| thieuster |
Dec 19 2015, 03:58 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 447 Joined: 31-January 15 From: 275 mls NW from Stuttgart. Member No.: 18,384 Region Association: Europe |
QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Dec 19 2015, 08:17 PM) It may work OK, but tis not right. Look at the vacuum hose off the PCV and the fuel hose on the fuel rail by cyl #3. That fuel rail on 3-4 is also for the 1-2 side with the CSV - how did you terminate that middle nipple? Compare them to these: Thanks! I'll get into that! Nice job for Christmas Day! Mine is 73 European specs car, btw. Menno |
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| ntlgnt1 |
Dec 19 2015, 04:19 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 17-June 14 From: Bay Area Member No.: 17,499 Region Association: Northern California |
trunk lid, lock, and badge looked salvageable?
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| bdstone914 |
Dec 19 2015, 04:34 PM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,522 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
Several valuable parts on that engine. 1.7 rockers are worth $100 for the set as they are needed for swivel feet. Flywheel worth $100 if it had material left to be resurfaced. Fan is it has no broken fins, top tin if it is not cracked on the passenger side and not cut for AC. SSI heat exchangers. Many little parts like the air flaps at the bottom of the fan shroud, brackets for the blower fan, heater J tubes, S branches and and warm elbows.
Not much call for a complete engine unless it is good enough to install as is. Get a 12mm or 13mm socket as needed on a 1.4 socket drive with a 6 inch extension to get the difficult heat exchanger nuts. Add rust penetrant before attempting to remove the nuts. Have fun. Bruce |
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| vintage914racer |
Dec 19 2015, 04:38 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 429 Joined: 28-December 03 From: Minneapolis, MN Member No.: 1,473 |
QUOTE(ntlgnt1 @ Dec 19 2015, 02:19 PM) trunk lid, lock, and badge looked salvageable? Kid was riddled with rust. The rust colored paint camouflaged it. Trunk button was overly pitted. It meant to grab the badge.... Other than that I did get all the meat off the bone and most is already part of future 914world member builds. I'm going to get the remaining parts listed in the next couple of days. |
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