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Coondog
post Dec 25 2015, 10:13 AM
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post Dec 25 2015, 11:14 AM
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You know what's really bad for your car, standing on the side of the road watching it burn because you didnt have a fire extinguisher. If all you have is dry powder and have to use it. Take the car home and wash it off.
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post Dec 25 2015, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(vw505 @ Dec 25 2015, 09:14 AM) *

You know what's really bad for your car, standing on the side of the road watching it burn because you didnt have a fire extinguisher. If all you have is dry powder and have to use it. Take the car home and wash it off.



Firefighter Greg agrees on this. Your car catches on fire and if you put it out with a Dry Chem fire ext, the FD will be enroute so you will be able to wash off the powder withen minutes. Do I spray the Dry Chem down my carbs. He'll No !!
Please remember the heat from the fire will do more damage to any exposed electrical systems then a dry chem Ext. Plus your cars going to be FUched up anyway so residue wil be one of the last things I am going to worry about.

Let's take a little Fire 101 class

It takes 3 things to make fire. Heat-Fuel-o2 take any of those away and fire goes out.
Gasoline has a flash point of -45 so rekindles from hot services after you have knocked down the flames is likely.
It's the vapors that burn not the liquid.
When you buy a Fire Ext you will see numbers like 2A-10BC 10A- 20BC. Most people refer to these as 10 or 20 pound Extinguishers. In reality the 2A means it will put out 2 square feet of a type A fire "ordinary combustibles" 10BC means it will put out 10 square feet of a type B "flammable liquid or type C electrical fire"

Just saying in my 31 years of putting out fires I am grabbing a dry chem. Remember it's all about knocking down the flames then keep a agent on the fuel that surpresses the vapors. Does the residue suck....Of course, but again if your cars on fire from a fuel leak you got bigger problems then cleaning up a mess.
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post Dec 25 2015, 01:38 PM
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What size extinguisher would work on this ?

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post Dec 25 2015, 02:44 PM
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Well when all else fails !!!!!!

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post Dec 25 2015, 03:03 PM
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QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ Dec 25 2015, 08:38 PM) *

What size extinguisher would work on this ?

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I would move from the 'E' (extinguisher) to the 'I' (insurance)! Luckily, mine is properly insured.

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post Dec 25 2015, 05:32 PM
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Best bet an onboard system and a hand held just in case you have to take one with you to help someone else.


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post Dec 25 2015, 06:40 PM
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The onboard system looks like the best but I'm guessing that would be a pretty penny and I don't think that I'll be doing any serious racing which I'm pretty sure that's meant for. I've seen that sort of setup on boats.
I do like the setup with the extinguisher in front of the seat just what I have in mind. So what did you go with on that one?
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post Dec 25 2015, 08:42 PM
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Looks like halon to me.
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post Dec 25 2015, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Dec 25 2015, 06:42 PM) *

Looks like halon to me.



I am going with Purple K it is a B/C extinguisher. It's the chemicals in the A that is harmful. Amazon has a 2.5 pound purple K extinguisher for 48.00. I am going to mount two in the front hood area. If that doesn't put out a fire them I am in trouble.

Another tip if you suspect a fire in the engine compartment get the engine lid open ASAP. The pic of the 914 shows me the guy tried spraying the agent upward in the wheel well. Look at the fire pattern and all the agent in and around that area. That was not a proper application as the fire probably damaged the cable and latch so he could not get access to the engine compartment.

1. Turn off car
2. Release engine lid latch
3. Grab fire ext
4. PASS................... PULL PIN. AIM. SQUEZZE HANDLE. SWEEP BACK AND FORTH.
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post Dec 25 2015, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE(Coondog @ Dec 25 2015, 10:22 PM) *

It's the chemicals in the A that is harmful.



Most class A extinguishers here are just tap water (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Dec 27 2015, 04:59 PM
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I am just about to buy a new Handheld FE for the race car.
I have a built in Firecharger system with three nozzles - Fuel Cell/pump, drivers crotch, engine bay.
I also carry a handheld on the center console as an extra precaution (and in case someone else's car has an incident)

So I was going to get the H3R Performance HalGuard 1.4 lb bottle.
Anyone have anything good or bad about that choice as a backup?

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http://www.summitracing.com/parts/htr-hg100c

Another reason I am replacing is that I broke the plastic nozzle off of my current cheap extinguisher by putting my hand down on it and supporting my weight.
This unit looks more sturdy and comes with a bracket.
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post Dec 27 2015, 06:04 PM
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I ordered a 5 pound Purple K for gasoline related fires and a 2.5 pound Halotron for interior electrical fires. I will make custom mounts on the spare tire cover.

I agree with a previous post, proper maintenance is the best preventive measure.
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post Dec 29 2015, 04:49 AM
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Look after your fuel lines including the ones under the tank. If you are not sure when they were last replaced its time to do it now.

If you do have to put out a fire chances are it will not be your own so carry a hand held. Mount it where you will be able to reach it before you exit the car. That way if your own car does catch fire you will already be holding it after jumping out. You won't have to face the dilemma - do I go back for it or is it safer to stand well back.

The only times I've used mine in 30 odd years was on someone else's car and on a tent that got ignited by a BBQ.
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post Dec 29 2015, 03:45 PM
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Maybe the driver "disappeared" to go buy a fire extinguisher?

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post Dec 29 2015, 05:59 PM
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Classic...... Never stand in front or rear of a vehicle fire. 1970s and 80s had bumpers with shock absorbers that when heated exploded and shot the bumper forward usually breaking the firefighters legs.

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post Dec 29 2015, 08:55 PM
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Congrats Tony! I'm sure she'd actually be thrilled that you are so proud of her.

Sara and I are at 12 years. I have the best of all worlds. She loves my cars and even has a '68 mustang of her own that she says will go to her grave with with her. She loves to do car related stuff but still happily gives me my space to do it on my own.

She turned 50 this year....holding up far better than I am.

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post Dec 30 2015, 12:24 PM
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QUOTE(Coondog @ Dec 29 2015, 05:59 PM) *

Classic...... Never stand in front or rear of a vehicle fire. 1970s and 80s had bumpers with shock absorbers that when heated exploded and shot the bumper forward usually breaking the firefighters legs.


That's awful, hope their training warns them about standing within range of 1973 to 1982 5-mph bumpers.
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post Dec 30 2015, 01:46 PM
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Today I received a Pelican email about an "Element Fire Extinguisher" group buy:

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Link: https://pelicanparts.us5.list-manage.com/tr...mp;e=e3b4440dfe

The way I read this, you have to buy 2 to participate.

Regardless, I'm thinking of going this route as my old HALON unit needs refill/rebuilding.

The Element looks pretty impressive for a hand-held unit, but it's not a "blaze cut." On the other hand, this would be easily moved from one old car to another.

Anyone have experience with one of these?

Thanks in advance!
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