Autonomous vehicles vs. 914, Your Driving In The Days Of The Wild Old West! Options

[Skydance]

Autonomous vehicles will render our old cars useless, and therefore worthless.

I don't think so.

Horse people talked about these same concerns ever since horses stopped being beasts of burden. Today, the recreational use of horses has increased the horse population to it's highest number in the past fifty years. Considering the cost of ownership, shrinking countryside, escalating environmental restriction, and many other issues we still have a high and healthy horse population.

Autonomous vehicles will hit us fast, an avalanche of them is on the way. Level four driverless cars will be taking the kids to school, circling back to take me to work, and then picking up the dog at the groomer. Driverless cars make good sense, and for many reasons. We all get the concept. After all the safe shuttling is done, I think a lot of properly wired guys and girls will feel like taking a good old car for a real drive. I don't think we'll see people lose desire for driving, in fact I think the opposite is likely.

Check the oil, enjoy your ride, your living in the days of the wild old west!

[stugray]

Autonomous vehicles will render our old cars useless, and therefore worthless.

I don't think so.

Horse people talked about these same concerns ever since horses stopped being beasts of burden. Today, the recreational use of horses has increased the horse population to it's highest number in the past fifty years. Considering the cost of ownership, shrinking countryside, escalating environmental restriction, and many other issues we still have a high and healthy horse population.

Autonomous vehicles will hit us fast, an avalanche of them is on the way. Level four driverless cars will be taking the kids to school, circling back to take me to work, and then picking up the dog at the groomer. Driverless cars make good sense, and for many reasons. We all get the concept. After all the safe shuttling is done, I think a lot of properly wired guys and girls will feel like taking a good old car for a real drive. I don't think we'll see people lose desire for driving, in fact I think the opposite is likely.

Check the oil, enjoy your ride, your living in the days of the wild old west!

I recently said that if someone could buy an entire vintage race group, and owned a track, the demand for weekend warriors to rent a race car will begin to increase in the near future.

[Mike Bellis]

In 10-20 years there will be a mass reduction in fossil fuel availability. It will be very expensive to drive a 914 if you can find gas. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[Elliot Cannon]

In 10-20 years there will be a mass reduction in fossil fuel availability. It will be very expensive to drive a 914 if you can find gas. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

10 - 20 years? Where did that info. come from? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[stevegm]

As John Forbes said to me yesterday - They will have to pry my 914 from my cold, dead heads.

[EdwardBlume]

I agree with Mike. It's inevitable that we will become less dependent on oil. Dads car will someday be electric or natural gas...

[EdwardBlume]

As John Forbes said to me yesterday - They will have to pry my 914 from my cold, dead heads.

Since it's a /6, I'm willing to oblige... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

[Mike Bellis]

The Feds just signed some BS to reduce fossil fuel consumption by 2020. We are going to have to run our 914's with seaweed...

[Andyrew]

E85 will be the temporary answer for another 5-10 years, BUT in the long run electricity will probably prevail.


I would LOVE it if they made E85 available at every gas station... But thats the selfish HP greedy person I am...

[jmill]

Wonder why produce prices have gone through the roof? Land by me is used to grow corn for ethanol rather than for food. Landowners have raised their lease prices (because ethanol makes money) to a point where farmers either grow corn for ethanol or jack up the price of vegetables to afford the inflated land lease prices.

When food competes with fuel we got big problems. You're paying at the pump and at the checkout line.

[damesandhotrods]

So what happens if the insurance companies decide that they don’t want to pay out for driver car accidents anymore and only insure driverless cars?

[bandjoey]

In 10-20 years there will be a mass reduction in fossil fuel availability. It will be very expensive to drive a 914 if you can find gas. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Yes Virginia, it looks like gas is here to stay for a while. (or we'll make it in backyard stills to keep classics running)


Autoblog.com Dec 23

Sebastian Blanco
Once again, the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) it polishing its crystal ball and sees nothing but good things as the world continues to burn its product for many decades to come. In fact, in the 2015 World Oil Outlook (WOO), OPEC thinks its future will shine so bright that the new report says, "By 2040, only 6% of the passenger car stock and 5.3% of commercial vehicles will be running on non-oil fuels." That's a truly depressing figure to anyone who's been watching the proliferation of plug-in and rooting for alt-fuel vehicles. (Not that everyone agrees with OPEC)

[wes]

I agree with Steve and I'm digging a big hole in my backyard for my secret fuel cell, please don't take my steering wheel away.
Let's see I'm 69 and my knees are bad I can't remember why I went to the bathroom, wonder how many years before my car is just a collectors item.

[914Sixer]

Gee, they told us we were going run out of fossil fuel BEFORE 1980's. Duh !!

[rick 918-S]

There will always be fuel. The government can mandate what ever they want. But when you step in front of a fuel truck your going to get run over. There is only so much you can legislate before the people wise up. Can you imagine the lower middle class having to choose between a tesla or life beyond the reach of their bicycle. Trapped in life by the good intensions of some out of touch social engineer? Can't happen.

[76-914]

The middle class will be gone long before oil. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[Big Len]

There will always be fuel. The government can mandate what ever they want. But when you step in front of a fuel truck your going to get run over. There is only so much you can legislate before the people wise up. Can you imagine the lower middle class having to choose between a tesla or life beyond the reach of their bicycle. Trapped in life by the good intensions of some out of touch social engineer? Can't happen.

Agree with Rick.

Also, do you believe that tractor trailers, railroad freight trains, airliners, and ships will be EVs in 20 years? If refineries are making diesel and jet fuel, they'll be making gasoline too.

[aircooledtechguy]

So what happens if the insurance companies decide that they don’t want to pay out for driver car accidents anymore and only insure driverless cars?

Please tell me that you don't really believe that insurance companies pay anything out of their own pockets when you file a claim. . . Just WHO do you think they get that money from to begin with?? That's right, YOU (and everyone else).

They will simply do what those bastards always do and raise their rates.

[JoeDees]

I don't think "running out of oil" is the issue within the next 50 years, but the question arises of "what is its pricepoint?" Will we still see it as viable if gas hits $10 a gallon? What about $15? $20? There's a book I read in college by Christopher Steiner called "$20 per Gallon: How the Inevitable Rise in the Price of Gasoline Will Change our Lives for the Better." It's absurdly utopian in many ways, but thought provoking as to how change will be forced upon us.

I think we'll replace oil (not completely) out of a shortage and price hike, it'll still be in the ground and stuff, but geopolitical issues will halt its mass importation and our desires to buy it from certain sellers. That said, old cars will still be fun and able to drive, just more expensive. I doubt it would even hurt values all that much; afterall, who buys a classic for affordable driving? Maybe EV swaps will become more popular and DDs will adapt, but the classics will still be driving.

[JoeDees]

It really is in our Nation Interest (security) to wean our dependence on foreign fossil fuels.