Smaller pedal cluster, Looking to make some room for my size 13s |
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Smaller pedal cluster, Looking to make some room for my size 13s |
Alphaogre |
Dec 26 2015, 11:35 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 460 Joined: 28-May 12 From: San Diego Member No.: 14,487 Region Association: Southern California |
Has anyone changed out the pedal set up to get some extra room? The break and clutch only have so much adjustment, but have huge throws
The gas pedal is fine, it would seem some smaller throws would have just enough difference in having to pull the leg back, I have the seat all the way back and running a smaller diameter wheel. Just wondering if there is a simple solution. I'm plying withy the idea of maybe cutting down the length of the clutch and break and re-threading them to mount to the pedal cluster, but if there is a better way, I'd be open to that.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
bdstone914 |
Dec 26 2015, 11:52 PM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,522 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
If the clutch in in adjustment you should not have to depress it more than 1/2 way. Later 911 use a clutch shaft with a longer arm on the clutch clevis end which could be used in a 914 to reduce the travel needed to disengage the clutch.
The brake rod on the pedals has an adjustment to reduce the free play to the master cylinder. Also make sure your rear brake calipers have the correct venting clearance to minimize travel to actuate the brakes. I could build a custom pedal cluster with 911 clutch shaft that would reduce the clutch pedal travel. Bruce Attached thumbnail(s) |
thelogo |
Dec 27 2015, 12:21 PM
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I've got size 14 shoes and don't have any issues with stock
Setup . I mean these Germans got it right Wouldn't really fiddle with it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) Only thing I can condone would be axe the entire pedal cluster For the titan pedals , but can't imagine it being better then stock Same go's for the transmission and shifter ,,, I just can't see some new walmart baseball glove being better Then the Jim rice Spalding mitt I've had since I was 7 But that's just me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) |
Ansbacher |
Dec 27 2015, 12:47 PM
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So an F-22 is no better than the original Wright Flyer? There is a problem with making generalizations.
Ansbacher |
thelogo |
Dec 27 2015, 01:16 PM
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So an F-22 is no better than the original Wright Flyer? There is a problem with making generalizations. Ansbacher You must be really sharp on aviation history I'll take superior design and engineering ( Wright flyer ) Every time over modern fly by wire computer reliant crap Designed to avoid a close in dog fight , come on And I like the yf-23 over the yf-22 anyway The better plane did not win https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_YF-23 |
r_towle |
Dec 27 2015, 06:46 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
If the clutch in in adjustment you should not have to depress it more than 1/2 way. Later 911 use a clutch shaft with a longer arm on the clutch clevis end which could be used in a 914 to reduce the travel needed to disengage the clutch. The brake rod on the pedals has an adjustment to reduce the free play to the master cylinder. Also make sure your rear brake calipers have the correct venting clearance to minimize travel to actuate the brakes. I could build a custom pedal cluster with 911 clutch shaft that would reduce the clutch pedal travel. Bruce Can you build a cluster to reduce the throw on an 84 911 pedal cluster? It's still way to long....with all new parts all setup per specifications. Rich |
Elliot Cannon |
Dec 27 2015, 07:10 PM
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914 Guru Group: Retired Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 29-December 06 From: Paso Robles Ca. (Central coast) Member No.: 7,407 Region Association: None |
So an F-22 is no better than the original Wright Flyer? There is a problem with making generalizations. Ansbacher You must be really sharp on aviation history I'll take superior design and engineering ( Wright flyer ) Every time over modern fly by wire computer reliant crap Designed to avoid a close in dog fight , come on And I like the yf-23 over the yf-22 anyway The better plane did not win https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_YF-23 Aviation experts. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
bdstone914 |
Dec 27 2015, 07:51 PM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,522 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
Can you build a cluster to reduce the throw on an 84 911 pedal cluster? It's still way to long....with all new parts all setup per specifications. Rich [/quote] I dont think there is much room to use a taller shaft arm then what is in the picture and is the same as is in the pedal set I built for you. Bruce |
Alphaogre |
Dec 28 2015, 07:23 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 460 Joined: 28-May 12 From: San Diego Member No.: 14,487 Region Association: Southern California |
This is what I was thinking. In essence, my legs can reach deeper into the footwell, thus I don't need the pedals reaching outward from the footwell toward the seat so much. If I don't have to pull my feet so far back toward my seat to have the pedal at its natural position, it would change the angle of my knees, which would be an advantage. For driving around town, its fine. It seems like it could be better with shorter throws and better foot positioning when it comes to more "aggressive" driving or AX events. I was thinking something below, but with the reservoir on the cluster it seems like it moves the entire pedal cluster toward the seat, which is the opposite of what I am trying to achieve. This is where I though of just modifying portions of the clutch and break pedals. |
r_towle |
Dec 28 2015, 07:37 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
[quote name='bdstone914' date='Dec 27 2015, 08:51 PM' post='2282213']
Can you build a cluster to reduce the throw on an 84 911 pedal cluster? It's still way to long....with all new parts all setup per specifications. Rich [/quote] I dont think there is much room to use a taller shaft arm then what is in the picture and is the same as is in the pedal set I built for you. Bruce [/quote] Ah, but there is room. Rich |
thelogo |
Dec 30 2015, 12:47 AM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
Always a. Bad idea
Seen it done in many ac Cobras also Never a smart move I've heard of adjustable pedals but (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) |
Cracker |
Dec 30 2015, 08:08 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,148 Joined: 2-February 10 From: Atlanta (area) Member No.: 11,316 Region Association: South East States |
I did something similar to the picture above but I was more intrusive. With my line fittings roughly 1/2" from the steering rack boot - this was as far forward as I could make it. I am 6'5" & have size 14 feet - rough combination for a teener driver. I'd recommend trying to work within the modifications to the original pedal system if possible - just allot less complicated...
PS: Obviously, something has to "give" and for me it was my leg angle. I moved the steering wheel back about 4" and created a "pocket" for my knees to comfortably extend into - if you look at my driving video in the Paddock, you'll see what I mean. If I had to do it over - I might have retained the original system but my reasoning for the switch was far more than just leg room. All the best! Tony |
DBCooper |
Dec 30 2015, 10:18 AM
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14's in the 13's with ATTITUDE Group: Members Posts: 3,079 Joined: 25-August 04 From: Dazed and Confused Member No.: 2,618 Region Association: Northern California |
That red car with the Tilton pedals is mine. We did those pedals to be able to use a hydraulic clutch, but with Howe cylinders (shortest out there) to reduce the amount of leg room lost. Later we did my son's car using the Porsche cluster and adapting a hydraulic cylinder on the other side of the firewall, and his car is really much nicer to drive.
We're both 6'3" and size 13's, no special problems driving the car but sometimes getting in and out can be annoying. Have you tried adjusting your clutch and brakes and rear calipers so engagement is right at the top, to reduce the amount of throw needed? I'd be afraid that shortening the levers would put the pedal pads down into the arch of your foot and that would be even more irritating. |
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