I need axles, Monitarily challenged Options

[Dr. Roger]

I know I need axles for my V8 conversion but so far all anyone has come up with is to spend $800 over at our * Hybrids friends.

Aren't there any alternatives for the mechanically enclined?

[bondo]

The cheapest high strength option is to use the shorter 911 axles with adapters. The adapters are expensive from the hybrid suppliers, but they aren't very complicated. If you have access to a lathe and a mill you could make them.

[Joe Bob]

Use stock ones and keep the burn outs to a minimum....I have an extra set if needed....

[dlee1967]

Roger, buy four axle adapters from RH at $70 each (still steep) and then go to your local Autozone and buy two rebuilt 1970ish VW Bus axles for $89 each. They are the same size CVs at 915s and the axles are strong. Return your stock 914 axles in the core boxes and try to sleep at night for sticking them on the cores.

At least this gets you the same thing at a reduced price. Then you can do the burnouts without the risk of a flailing axle. I've broken a stock CV and it isn't pretty when it is finished spinning.



DLee

[Andyrew]

Dlee. Their adapters are 70 each? times 4... 280..
Cv's are 90 x 2 thats roughly 200..

500 total

This is something I might be doing VERY soon...

Ahh spending my money finally.. lol

[bondo]

You need 4, unless you use 911 stub axles, and then you'd probably still need a spacer.

Sticking them on the cores? The 914 ones are probably worth more nowadays (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

[Andyrew]

Can you give them broken one's as cores?

Never mind, I have like 2 of em that I dont like anyways.. lol (really rough, not smooth at all... lol)

[bondo]

Just return the cores on a different day and you could probably put toyota halfshafts in there (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

[Andyrew]

Go to pick and pull, take a bag with you.. snach a couple you fine laying out there.. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

lol

[ClayPerrine]

If you are going 5lug, use the 944 turbo axles. They are quite a bit bigger than the 914 axles, and they don't require an adapter. You have to change the drive flanges on the transmission for 75-76 911 , and you can use 69 911 hubs on the outboard end. It all bolts together with no machining required.

[Andyrew]

Clay, really? Because I have turbo axles in the garage awaitin... (or maybe there na... I cant remember..)

Have any more details? Or do you know who has done it so I can email them?

[ClayPerrine]

I have all the pieces. Wes Hildreth of H&H in Plano Texas has done a bunch of them. It is truly a bolt in.

From the transmission outward....

75-75 911 coarse splined drive flanges (915 transmission).

complete 944 turbo axle shaft. You can tell it's the correct one if the 944 has ALUMINUM trailing arms. If it has steel arms, the axle won't work.

69 911 hubs.

The 944 turbo stub axle is the exact same splines as the 69 911. It is a bigger, beefer CV joint, and the axle length is the same as a 914. The drive flanges out of a coarse splined 915 will bolt into a 901 gearbox, and its the same bolt pattern as the 944 CV joint. It also uses 6 CV joint bolts instead of 4.

I am going to take pictures of mine when I install them. I have to make caliper mounts for the rear of my car, and then get the trailing arms powdercoated.

After that, its picture time!!!!

[Dr. Roger]

QUOTE (dlee1967 @ Mar 16 2005, 02:58 PM)

Roger, buy four axle adapters from RH at $70 each (still steep) and then go to your local Autozone and buy two rebuilt 1970ish VW Bus axles for $89 each. They are the same size CVs at 915s and the axles are strong. Return your stock 914 axles in the core boxes and try to sleep at night for sticking them on the cores. At least this gets you the same thing at a reduced price. Then you can do the burnouts without the risk of a flailing axle. I've broken a stock CV and it isn't pretty when it is finished spinning. DLee

Hi dlee, (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

The four axle adaptors you mention do what? Just make it longer? Got pics? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/drooley.gif)
I'm curious because I do have resources for milling fabrication. If it just a matter of knowing what they adapt.

I recently called * Hybrids and they said they don't sell the adaptors anymore due to hub centricity with other solutions.
Just complete axles using van axles. No spacers.




....................Roger, buy four axle adapters from RH at $70 each (still steep) and then go to your local Autozone and buy two rebuilt 1970ish VW Bus axles for $89 each. They are the same size CVs at 915s ......................

[dlee1967]

I am sorry to hear that Scott at RH has decided not to sell just the adapters. They do two things: 1) adapt the four bolt and two pin 914-4 flanges with the 6 bolt no pin 915 style (VW bus) cv joint. 2) extend the axle.

If Scott doesn't want to sell these adapters individually anymore, he is running the risk of someone knocking them off. If I can't buy them from him for my next car, I will take one of mine off and have copies made. If you have a facility to make them, maybe we can work something out. I would have to take one of my cars out of service to pull one for measurement. That doesn't sound very appealing to me, but might be an option.

I like Clay's solution, but the '69 911 stubs are getting harder to find and by the time you have collected all of the parts you might be at $500. He does have more Porsche wrecking yards in Dallas than I do in Houston.

David Lee

[ClayPerrine]

It's not the 69 911 stub axles. It's the 69 911 hubs. And I have recently discovered that you can use the 944 hubs too.

[dlee1967]

Sorry Clay, Hubs...........If 944 fit, then we have a GREAT solution. Even in Houston we have a ton of these in the Pic-A-Parts. DLee

[Katmanken]

OK,

You asked for it......


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Ken (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/happy11.gif)

[Dr Evil]

I found a guy on ebay not too long ago who makes any adapter you want for low$$$. No one seemed interested, so I let it go. I could see if I could find him again if anyone is interested. Then you could just do the bus axle to 914 stock.

[bondo]

Here's a pic of renegade adapters. They come bare steel which turns to rust. (I got these used) I sandblasted them and put on a coat of black por-15. There's no need to copy a set of these, you'd be better off taking the measurements off the parts these bolt to. Otherwise errors will add up, and these aren't THAT precise (I have 4 and they are visibly not identical)

I have no instructions for these, but since they have a hole in the middle I assume I'll need CV gaskets on both sides of each adapter to keep the grease in. Anyone know for sure?

[Dr. Roger]

Hey Royce,

Would you be interested in selling a set of those 911 axle adaptors? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

Muchas gracias',
Roger