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door seals - fuzzies and scapper - questions |
jimkelly |
Jan 14 2016, 07:36 AM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
does the glass need to come out to replace these?
is the an inner fuzzy or just outter? my glass is banging around and i am afraid it will break if i hit a big pothole/bump. http://shop.914rubber.com/Door-seals_c2.ht....m1plqscsfapp03 Attached thumbnail(s) |
rhodyguy |
Jan 14 2016, 09:09 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,080 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
No. For late doors you'll prob want/need at least the rear channel strips and of course the end caps.
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Larmo63 |
Jan 14 2016, 09:22 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
I'm at the same point. I think with the door panel off, you can get the channel in there with the window rolled up. It looks like cutting to the right length before install is key.
This area is tricky, and I need to address it too. |
jimkelly |
Jan 14 2016, 09:27 AM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
i'll need to figure out what i am missing.
http://www.autoatlanta.com/porsche-parts/h...;section=804-05 |
cary |
Jan 14 2016, 10:42 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,900 Joined: 26-January 04 From: Sherwood Oregon Member No.: 1,608 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
The red and white arrowed items slip right in with the window in place. On the yellow arrowed item mine are so weathered they"re going to come out in pieces. http://shop.914rubber.com/914-Inner-door-f....m1plqscsfapp03 You'd probably want have both the red and white removed to give you enough movement in the glass to get the outer fuzzy out. I've never tried changing it. I'm right there, right now on my rustoration. Working on removing the track. One of the screws came out. Two are frozen. If a day of soaking in PB Blaster doesn't do the trick. We'll add some fire. With the window in place I think I'd try one of those orange 90 degree angle HF picks. Start right next to the wing window. Gently pull towards you. Unless its been changed before it will probably come out in chunks. My .02c with only one cup of coffee. Let me know if you guys need any other pictures. |
Mikey914 |
Jan 14 2016, 11:14 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,669 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Very interesting,
Your car is the late door, and yet has the correct outer seal.Porsche superseded these with the 911 type, and they are a pain to roll the window down as the grabbed. Looks like a time capsule. The good news is you should have a scissor mechanism and it's easier to work on. You may find that removing the glass is the easiest way to do this. Fortunately, it's not too bad. Here's the maintenance manual steps Attached image(s) |
Mikey914 |
Jan 14 2016, 11:15 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,669 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
the rest
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Mikey914 |
Jan 14 2016, 11:15 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,669 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
To be honest the seal at the triangle widow is a pain to deal with. But you do not have to remove to replace the others.
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Mikey914 |
Jan 14 2016, 11:19 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,669 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Here's the goodies I make that may help.
The rollers for scissor mechanism, I don't know if you can but these anywhere else, but if you have a flat spot you can replace them http://shop.914rubber.com/914-Late-window-...m?categoryId=-1 Attached thumbnail(s) |
Mikey914 |
Jan 14 2016, 11:51 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,669 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
The outer fuzzies
the window will have to come out for these I think you see why Attached image(s) |
Mikey914 |
Jan 14 2016, 12:04 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,669 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
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shoguneagle |
Jan 14 2016, 06:06 PM
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shoguneagle Group: Members Posts: 1,180 Joined: 3-January 03 From: CA, OR, AZ (CAZOR); New Mexico Member No.: 84 Region Association: Northern California |
I think you will find the outer fuzzy seals and scrapper holder will have to come out because of rusted items and getting everything clean/rust treated.Mark is offering a very reasonable door kit available.
I have my door interiors apart and did have to take the windows all the way out as Mark as indicated. From this thread, I see I need to order the rollers for the scissor mechanism. |
shoguneagle |
Jan 14 2016, 06:12 PM
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shoguneagle Group: Members Posts: 1,180 Joined: 3-January 03 From: CA, OR, AZ (CAZOR); New Mexico Member No.: 84 Region Association: Northern California |
Just place an order for two sets (total 4); Mark, do you have copies of the procedures showing on this thread?
The copies on the thread are very faint and are hard to read. Could make a copy of the procedures and send me a copy with the parts ordered? Steve |
cary |
Jan 15 2016, 10:24 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,900 Joined: 26-January 04 From: Sherwood Oregon Member No.: 1,608 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Here's a couple shots of the outer fuzzy rail.
I concur with Mark. I don't see one replacing the outer fuzzy without the window being removed. Like I thought, the fuzzy just disintegrated as I was removing it. |
Mikey914 |
Jan 15 2016, 11:49 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,669 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
The pictures are taken from the maintenance manual, but I got one better for you. I did a write up on the triangle window seal replacement-
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...triangle+window |
Old Yella |
Jan 15 2016, 07:02 PM
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Old Yella Group: Members Posts: 158 Joined: 2-July 13 From: Canberra Australia Member No.: 16,086 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I must be cursed. Seems I always buy the things on special the week before. F&*^%^$#@#.
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